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Author:  Rich Walker [ Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:35 am ]
Post subject:  New HPS game wish list.
In terms of a campaign, what are your top three choices?



Major Richard Walker
I Corps
Army of the Mississippi
2nd Brigade, 3rd Division
"Defenders of Tennessee"
Author:  nelmsm [ Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:39 am ]
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1. Second Bull Run to Antietam
2. Murfreesboro to Chickamauga
3. Wilderness to Petersburg

and if you asked for 4 I would have said the Red River Campaign.


General Mark Nelms
6/3/IX/AoO
"Blackhawk Brigade"
Author:  Boyd [ Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:11 pm ]
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1. The Shenandoah Valley Campaign 1862
2. Wilderness to Petersburg
3. Fort Sumter to Appomattox [:D]

Col. Boyd Denner
"Alabama Brigade"
1/3/III
ANV
"God Bless the Alabamians" Gen. Robert E. Lee - The Wilderness 1864
Author:  mihalik [ Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:21 pm ]
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1. The Shenandoah Campaigns of 1862 and 1864

2. The Red River Campaign, including Arkansas

3. 2nd Manassas-Antietam, incl Cedar Mt

MG Mike Mihalik
1/III/AoMiss/CSA
Author:  RE Daley [ Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:06 pm ]
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1) Lee vs Grant, the 1864 Campaign
2) Lee vs Grant, the 1864 Campaign
3) Lee vs Grant, the 1864 Campaign

thank you very much for asking Rich [:D]

Colonel R.E.Daley
1st Corps of the ANV
3rd Calvary Divsion,
3rd Brigade
"We are the Midnight Riders"
Author:  KWhitehead [ Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:16 pm ]
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1. Second Bull Run to Antietam (probably starting with Cedar Mountain)

2. Chickamauga Campaign (starting with Rosecrans move against Chattanooga).

3. Grant's Overland Campaign (Wilderness through Cold Harbor)

[Had a second thought on my first item. It might be better to split it into two different games: Cedar Mountain to Bull Run and a separate one for the invasion of Maryland. Each really takes place as a separate operation and this would keep the campaigns from taking to long to finish.]

LG. Kennon Whitehead
Chatham Grays
III Corps, AoM (CSA)
Author:  Gary McClellan [ Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:21 pm ]
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1) Perryville
2) 2BR to Antietam
3) Early-Sheridan in the Valley

Major General Gary McClellan
1st Division, XXIII Corps
AoO,USA
Author:  Dwight McBride [ Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:22 pm ]
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1862 and 1864 Shenandoah Valley campaigns.

Grant's 1864 Overland campaign.

Chattanooga (with Chickamauga up front if possible)


Sincerely,
Brig Gen Dwight McBride
1st Brigade ("The Regulars")
2nd Division/V Corps/AOP/USA
Author:  Bill Spitz [ Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:24 pm ]
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1. 2nd Bull Run to Antietam (including 1st Bull Run)
2. Murfreesboro to Chickamauga
3. The Wilderness to The start of The Siege of Petersburg.

Thanks for asking!!!

Col. Bill Spitz
3rd Division
V Corps
Army of the Potomac
Author:  dmallory [ Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:48 pm ]
Post subject: 
Major Walker,

1. Murfreesboro - Chickamauga - Chattanooga
2. 1862 Shendandoah Valley
3. *reserves final choice for later [8D]*


Your humble servant,
Gen 'Dee Dubya' Mallory

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David W. Mallory
ACW - General, 3/2/I/AotM (Club President & Cabinet Member)
CCC - Lieutenant, Georgia Volunteers, Southern Regional Department, Colonial American Army
Author:  dalelast [ Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:04 am ]
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Since Vista has rendered the BG games unplayable I would like to see

1. 2nd Manassas to Antietam (throw in 1st BR as well)
2. Stone's River to Chattanooga
3. Valley Campaigns of 62 and 64

Major General Dale Lastowicka
1st "Adirondack" Division
XXV Corps
Army of the James
Author:  tony best [ Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:24 am ]
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The ENTIRE war ala FTW!! Yes, I know it will take years but ya`ll gotta start sometime!![}:)][;)][:D][:D][:D]

Colonel Tony Best
Army of Georgia
Author:  zinkyusa [ Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:30 am ]
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1. Chancellorsville Camapaign
2. 1864 Wilderness
3. 1863 Braggs Camapign

Lt. Gen. Ed Blackburn
II/VI/AoS
Image
"Forward Bucktails"
Author:  Atle Jenssen [ Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:43 am ]
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1. Overland 1864 (Wilderness to Petersburg)

2. Fredericksburg/Chancellorsville 1862/63

3. Shenandoah Valley 1862/64

(But of course also Manassas and Antietam and everything in between [;)])

MajGen Atle Jenssen
CO 2nd Division
XXth Corps
Army of the Cumberland
USA
Author:  ALynn [ Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:11 am ]
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I base my choices on playability, because while Chancellorsville might be interesting on paper it would likely be a massacre in real life - a Union army as large as anything Grant commanded in the last days at Petersburg vs. a Confederate army devoid of two of its best divisions. There is no way that Hooker should have lost the Chancellorsville campaign on paper, and since we have so much control in the games, I doubt there is any way to make a "fair" campaign of that battle that would give the Confederates much of a chance without using a lot of fixed units and other "gamey" tools to prevent the Yanks from bringing their full 50,000 troop advantage to bear at one time.

That being said, the most equitable campaigns would probably be:

1) Bragg's invasion of Kentucky
2) Bragg vs. Rosecrans in Middle Tennessee (starting just before Murfeesboro and running through the Tullahoma campaign - with what if battles! - and perhaps ending before Chickamauga)
3) Chickamauga to Chatanooga (beginning just before Chickamauga and ending after the seige of Chattanooga, etc depending on the outcome of battles...)

Or, combine #2 and #3 into one ginormous capaign stretching the full year from winter 1862 (Murfeesboro) to winter 1863 (Chatanooga). [:D]

The true 2nd Manassas/Sharpsburg campaign resulted as an extension of:

A) The Seven Days, and
B) The 1862 Valley Campaign

Rather than being separate campaigns, the reality of the situation was that the Confederate plans after the Seven Days were very fluid and the entire stretch from prior to Cedar Mountain until after Sharpsburg was just one long, drawn out campaign as Lee reacted to the changing strategic situation - much like we consider the 1864 Overland campaign to be one long, drawn out campaign rather than 5 individual campaigns loosely connected. As such, I do not support the idea of splitting 2nd Manassas and Sharpsburg into separate campaigns. They should be one combined campaign beginning with Cedar Mountain and ending with Lee and McClellan staring at each other in Northern Virginia (if the campaign goes historically) where McClellan stopped moving and was replaced by Burnsides, who then adopted McClellans plan to continue shifting East in an attempt to flank Lee out of his river defenses, etc.

The 1862 Valley Campaign would be difficult without contrived time tables for the same reason as Chancellorsville - Jackson was quite outnumbered by the three Union "armies" he was facing, and if they had ever been able to join forces it could have been ugly for old Stonewall. The campaign would have to force more or less historic battles of Jackson vs. single Union "armies" or else face the problem of being hopeless for the Rebs, in spite of the poor quality of Union leadership (and troops, in game terms, I suppose.)

For some of those same reasons I am leery about the new Atlanta Campaign. After playing a couple of Vicksburg campaigns and being forced by the design into historic situations of Confederate stupidity where there is no chance of winning until the very last battle - maybe - I can't say I'm too thrilled with the idea of another campaign that features one side with a giant advantage and forces us into historic patterns instead of allowing us to truly run the campaign ourselves - I am not Pemberton, for Pete's sake. As such, I don't want to be forced to be Bragg, etc. either. [B)]

Regards,

Brig. Gen. Alan Lynn
2nd Div, II Corps, AoA
VMI Training Staff

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