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 Post subject: In Rememberance
PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:53 pm 
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Of course, not only do we remember Gettysburg, but let us not forget the far more important event of that day, the surrender of Vicksburg.

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Absolutely. A turning point of the war.

Regarding the 3rd of July, I cannot help but always remember two climactic battles on this day every year, Gettysburg 1863 and Königgrätz (Sadowa) 1866. Both broke the neck of a proud army, both decided the fate of a nation in a war in which North was pitted against South, and both saw one magnificent and hopeless massed charge of excellent troops in a grand old style that was brutally defeated by modern firepower.

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I've always wondered what would have happened had Lee won at Gettysburg. I mean, whould Vicksburg still have surrendered, or would the victorious news caused them to hold on just a little longer? Would they have even received the news in time to decide?


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Excellent comparisons. I feel no matter what had happened at Gettysburg, Vicksburg was doomed once Davis put Pemperton in charge there. It's fate was sealed when he withdrew into the town for siege.

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Thank you Gary. Quite often Vicksburg is forgotten. Gettysburg was probably the most dramatic moment but Vicksburg was the more important from a strategic standpoint.

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Two pieces of excellent news for the boys in Blue!

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Rich Walker</i>
<br />I've always wondered what would have happened had Lee won at Gettysburg. I mean, whould Vicksburg still have surrendered, or would the victorious news caused them to hold on just a little longer? Would they have even received the news in time to decide?


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They wouldn't have known in time to do anything or change the outcome in Vicksburg. Ever after the 1st day at Gettysburg - a Confederate victory that would have had McClellan running for Pipe Creek - the news didn't reach Vicksburg. With the seige in place, I doubt they got much news and what they did get was probably old. Vicksburg would still have fallen either way.

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