American Civil War Game Club (ACWGC)

I too like the different periods of history that HPS games bring to us. We all of course have our favorite eras. One battle I would really enjoy replaying took place one year after the ACW and was 3x larger than the battle of Gettysburg.

<i>"On July 3, 1866, Prussia attacked the city of Königgrätz--now called Hradec Králové, against high odds and defeated the Austrian army in a single day, despite the Austrian advantage in heavy artillery and command of the high ground.

The battle for the city located in the Czech Republic--was the largest of its time, with nearly half a million troops involved. It was also the first battle where the outcome was directly determined by the availability of new technologies, including the railroad, telegraph, cast steel rifled cannon, and breech-loading rifle. It also marked a lesson in the fallacy of dependence on technology at the expense of sound strategy."</i>

Lt. Gen. Boyd Denner
II Corps Commanding
ANV
"God Bless the Alabamians" Gen. Robert E. Lee - Wilderness 1864

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<br />I too like the different periods of history that HPS games bring to us. We all of course have our favorite eras. One battle I would really enjoy replaying took place one year after the ACW and was 3x larger than the battle of Gettysburg.

<i>"On July 3, 1866, Prussia attacked the city of Königgrätz--now called Hradec Králové, against high odds and defeated the Austrian army in a single day, despite the Austrian advantage in heavy artillery and command of the high ground.

The battle for the city located in the Czech Republic--was the largest of its time, with nearly half a million troops involved. It was also the first battle where the outcome was directly determined by the availability of new technologies, including the railroad, telegraph, cast steel rifled cannon, and breech-loading rifle. It also marked a lesson in the fallacy of dependence on technology at the expense of sound strategy."</i>

Lt. Gen. Boyd Denner
II Corps Commanding
ANV
"God Bless the Alabamians" Gen. Robert E. Lee - Wilderness 1864

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Ah, yes, the Prusso-Austrian War of 1866. Followed shortly thereafter by the Franco-Prussian War of 1870-1871, the result of which would dictate French strategy into WWI and, to some extent, into WWII.

How about an HPS Solferino?

"The Battle of Solferino was fought on June 24, 1859 and resulted in the victory of the allied French Army under Napoleon III and Sardinian Army under Victor Emmanuel II (together known as the Franco-Sardinian Alliance) against the Austrian Army under Emperor Franz Josef (also known as Francis Joseph); it was the last major battle in world history where all the involved armies were under the personal command of their monarchs. Over 200,000 soldiers fought in this important battle, the largest since the Battle of Leipzig in 1813. There were about 100,000 Austrian troops and a combined total of 118,600 French and allied Piedmontese-Sardinian troops. After this battle, the Austrian Emperor refrained from further direct command of the army.

The Battle of Solferino was a decisive engagement in the Second Italian War of Independence or Second Independence War, a crucial step in the Italian Risorgimento. The war's geopolitical context was the nationalist struggle to unify Italy, long divided between France, Austria, Spain and the Papal States. The battle took place near the village of Solferino, Italy, a location between Milan and Verona.

The confrontation was between the Austrians, then marching across northern Italy, and the French and Piedmontese-Sardinian forces who opposed their advance. The battle was a particularly gruelling one, lasting over nine hours and resulting in over 3,000 Austrian troops killed with 10,807 wounded and 8,638 missing or captured. The Allied armies also suffered a total of 2,492 killed, 12,512 wounded and 2,922 captured or missing. Reports of wounded and dying soldiers being shot or bayoneted on both sides added to the horror. In the end, the Austrian forces were forced to yield their positions, and the Allied French-Italian armies won a tactical, but costly, victory.

This battle would have a long-term effect on the future conduct of military actions. Jean-Henri Dunant, who witnessed the battle in person, was motivated by the horrific suffering of wounded soldiers left on the battlefield to begin a campaign that would eventually result in the Geneva Conventions and the establishment of the International Red Cross."


Prior to Gettysburg, the battle of Solferino was the largest battle between single shot rifle bearing armies in the Western world - well suited to HPS designs - could be easily modded from ACW games with new artwork for the soldiers and slight pdt changes for the slight differences in weapons. [;)]

Regards,

Lt. Gen. Alan Lynn
CSA Chief of Staff
3rd Bgde, 3rd Cav Div, II Corps, AoA

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Maybe Friday - HPS typically releases on the first Friday of the month...


General Jeff Laub
Union Chief of the Army
ACWGC Cabinet Member
http://www.geocities.com/laubster22/UnionHQ/

As a member of the development team I am certainly biased towards Squad Battles titles. However I find it stimulating to have different historical situations covered in HPS titles. It is a good opportunity to learn history (not just the popular ones) while playing the game. As someone who has very limited knowledge on ACW I found titles like Corinth, Ozark or Franklin very useful for exploring new dimensions in our hobby. I dont like the idea of getting stuck in a limited time and geography. I did minor contribution to the Spanish Civil War title with 4 scenarios which motivated me forward to read materials I can find on the subject. It amazingly provides insights for the tactical, organizational issues of the WW2 battlefields.

Lt.Col. Ozgur Budak
3rd Texas Cavalry
Texas Cavalry Division
Smith's Corps
Army of Georgia

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On the other hand, I have a 'problem' with simulations of events such as the Spanish civil War because we know, comparatively, so little about the situations involved. That I believe is a fundamental difference. Give me a simulated Roman Legion to command and I could probably direct it in a virtual battle fairly accurately. In contrast, give me a Republican Militia Division from the Spanish Civil War and I don't think ANYONE would know what to do? reliable material just doesn't exist in large enough quantity to make the simulation reasonably accurate.
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Just because a war didn't involve large amounts of US troops doesn't mean people know very little about it...to say a war fought so close to WWII had little to no coverage is an amazing comment to me.

Here's some sources on the conflict:

Bibliography:
Books:
author, title, city/publisher , year

Julio Arostegui , Los Combatientes Carlistas en la Guerra Civil Espanola (I & II), Madrid / Aportes XIX, 1991

George Hills , The battle for Madrid, London / Vantage Books, 1976
Diverse Authors - Compiled by Frank Graham , XV International Brigade , Pontypool / Warren & Pell Pub

Hugh Thomas , The Spanish Civil War, London / Penguin Books , 2001
Dir General de Preparacion de Campana , Reglamento Tactico de Infanteria , Burgos , 1937

Don Nemesio Barrueco – Don Jose Soto del Rey , Guia del Oficial de Infanteria , Madrid / Imprenta Sebastian el Cano

Frank Graham , Battles of Brunete and the Aragon , Newcastle / Author , 1999

Carlos Engel , Historia de las Brigadas Mixtas del EPR , Madrid / Almena , 2005

Anthony Beevor , La Guerra Civil Espanola , Barcelona / Critica , 2005

Chris Henry , The Ebro 1938 , London / Osprey , 1999

Patrick Turnbull / Jeffrey Burn , The Spanish Civil War 1936-39, London / Osprey , 1995

Websites:

http://www.elgrancapitan.org/foro/
http://www.requetes.com/index.html
http://www.guerracivil1936.galeon.com/
http://guadalajara1937.awardspace.com/i ... e&Itemid=1
http://republicaomuerte.iespana.es/sierra.htm
http://es.geocities.com/gce_euzkadi/paginas/1.html
http://guerracivil.forumup.es/index.php ... uerracivil
http://www.generalisimofranco.com/18_julio/00A.htm
http://www.carlismo.es/index.php
http://www.sbhac.net/Republica/Introduc ... uccion.htm
http://www.international-brigades.org.uk/
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/Spain.htm
http://www.alba-valb.org/
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/9820/spain7.html

And you can find the designers notes as well as a complete listing of the actions from the war covered on my blog:

http://www.gamesquad.com/forums/blog.php?u=4568




LGen. Hamilton
II Corps
ANV, CSA