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One always cringes when this topic comes up... [V]

Major General Gary McClellan
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Cheer up Gary, at least the topic isn't about singing ability.[:D]

MG Al "Ambushed" Amos, Commanding Officer
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> It's my understanding that Pope wasn't half bad and that it was his staff who inexplicably failed to keep him informed of Reb movements leading up to and during the battle.

Lt. Col. Bill Cirillo
3rd Brigade, 1st Div.
XX Corps, AoC, USA

If I remember correctly he knew of enemy on his left but assumed they were withdrawing not advancing. Bufford had reported Longstreet's movements around 9 am to McDowell. Pope for some reason assumed what was sighted was Jackson retreating. Then made the order for Porter to attack them which apparently was never sent.

Pope also poorly handled the troops he did control. Ordering a day long series of piecemeal attacks that exhausted his army. Pope at times did act with compentence but not at 2nd Manassas.

LG. Kennon Whitehead
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Pope did have some bad subordinates, but he kept ordering Porter to attack Jackson on the first day, ignoring the fact that Porter claimed there were men right in front of him (Longstreet). Pope also made one of the stupidest statements of the war. When the Confederates were closing on Chinn Ridge, and McDowell was rushing whatever troops he could over to to the left stall a disaster, Pope turned to him and said, "I wonder if perhaps you have weakened our right too much in reinforcing the left." Even McDowell knew that the Army of Virginia would be lucky to survive.

Maj. Dylan McCartney
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