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 Post subject: Do we have any rabid George Custer fans in our midst?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:49 pm 
Gentlemen,

George Custer is actually the fellow that got me interested in the Civil War. I followed his military career on the Great Plains... long before I realized he also had some significance in the Civil War.

Anyway... if you are a Custer buff like I am... drop me an email at:

gregorolinsky@yahoo.com

I may have a very interesting proposal for you if you'd be interested in commanding the 1st, 5th, 6th or 7th Michigan and possibly even the 1st Vermont Cavalry Regiment.

Thanks,


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 Post subject: Re: Do we have any rabid George Custer fans in our midst?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:50 pm 
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Suh, Custer was a pu$$y, you ain't

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:48 pm 
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I've read everything I can find about G. A. Custer. Some people love him, some hate him. My most favorite book about custer is Son of the Morning Star : Custer and the Little Bighorn by Evan S. Connell the movie by the same name "Son of Morning Star" sucks. Stephen E. Ambrose also wrote a great book called "Crazy Horse and Custer" which shows and I quote "the Parallel Lives of Two American Warriors". It's a great read and I highly recommend it to any history buff. Have you visited the Custer web page?

http://www.garryowen.com/

Some writers don't give Custer much credit as a strategist. Ambrose said his most used and most suscessful tactic was the charge and the odds didn't much matter to Custer. His commands suffered much higher casualities than other cavalry units but the troopers where beating at the tent flaps to get into his command. Go figure. His brother Tom, won two, that's 2 medal of honor awards. How can that happen with being wounded or killed?
Lt. Col. Custer really only fought in two indian engagements in his career. 'The first was the battle of Washita which wasn't much of a battle by civil war starndards but never the less with the desperate western military chasing a very elusive enemy it was highly touted by the press with a little help from George's own pen. The second with the Little Big Horn. The fact is that when the army was chasing the hostiles as they were called, the hostiles would scatter in a dozen different directions and evade the troops. This indian tactic was directly responsible for Custer's tactic of dividing his command at the Little Big Horn. He wanted to corral as many as possible. He especially wanted to capture the women and children as he believed that the warriors wouldn't fight if they knew he had their families. That was undoubtably true. Many more books are available at the web page listed above. Personnally I find Custer an enigma that all of us must sort out for ourselves.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:38 pm 
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Colonel Olinsky <salute>

Suh, my compliments!

You looking for a cavarly engagement?

Highest regards,

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:33 pm 
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Custer always reminds me of Douglas MacArthur, although I have done enough reading on each to do a fair comparison

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 Post subject: Re: Do we have any rabid George Custer fans in our midst?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:38 am 
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I do really enjoy Custer history and have read both of the books mentioned. Touched by Fire is a decent read and I found this book very good: Archaeology, History, and Custer's Last Battle: The Little Big Horn Re-examined by Richard A. Fox (Sep 15, 1997) \. Larry McMurty is coming out with a novel this Christmas about the General.

As for Dugout Doug, American Ceaser remains my favorite book about him.

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 Post subject: Re: Do we have any rabid George Custer fans in our midst?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:36 pm 
I take a moment on the yearly anniversary of his death to note that he got what he deserved. I also think it a shame that he so incompetently led so many brave men to their deaths. Obviously I am not a fan of his.


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 Post subject: Re: Do we have any rabid George Custer fans in our midst?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:51 pm 
Custer's last words: "Indians, Shmindians...." :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:58 pm 
Based on his tactical genius, I thought it was, "Yee....Haw!!!!! I think we got em surrounded men!!!!!"


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Would love to watch little big man

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 Post subject: Re: Do we have any rabid George Custer fans in our midst?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:04 am 
I have to ask yall who grew up with Atari (I only had it for a year or two in the 80s before Nintendo came out)...

Has anyone played, or remember, "Custer's Revenge"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Custers_revenge

Essentially Custer goes around raping Indian women in the game. Really, not much more needs to be said. Not shocking the game wasn't a hit!


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:39 am 
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My ex-wife was always amazed that I always remembered her birthday. Seems out of all her kids and other ex's I was the only one that never failed to remember. I never told her I could remember it because it's June 26th. The day after the battle. Dear Old Gal, no she was not born in 1876.

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 Post subject: Re: Do we have any rabid George Custer fans in our midst?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:29 am 
Jefferson H. Davis wrote:
Obviously I am not a fan of his.


The 1868 massacre of Indian women and children at the Washita by Custer - like the 1968 My Lai massacre by Lt William Calley's men in Viet Nam - will always be a stain on our national honor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Washita_River


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 Post subject: Re: Do we have any rabid George Custer fans in our midst?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:17 am 
rjh57 wrote:
The 1868 massacre of Indian women and children at the Washita by Custer - will always be a stain on our national honor.


My view on Indian/American relations prior to the 20th Century is fairly controversial but straightforward - no blame. For every person crying Indian massacre there is a Fort Mims Massacre of white women and children to counter it. If two wrongs dont equal a right than neither side is guiltless in the end - then neither side can blame the other for the tactics used.

They have tax free casinos now and we have millions of square miles of land.

Bygones.

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And if anyone gets the "bygones" reference than you will win an award for catching one of the more obscure 90's pop culture references I have used. :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Do we have any rabid George Custer fans in our midst?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:26 pm 
I don't think you can blame the Cheyenne in western Oklahoma in 1868 for what the Creek Indians did in southern Alabama 55 years earlier (1813)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Mims_massacre


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