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Author:  Ola Berli [ Mon May 02, 2005 10:20 am ]
Post subject:  What Army are best to join?
Gents,

What Army are the best to join?
Any Pro/cons for the Union army or the Confederate army?


Regards
Ola
Author:  greenFyre [ Mon May 02, 2005 10:41 am ]
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Ola

OK, we can do the whole "real coffee and shoes" vs "rebel mystique and peculiar smell" discussion again, but I'm going to say .... the one that suits you!

Go to the LINKS EXPRESS http://garyned.tripod.com/

From here you can visit every Army's HQ (home page) and the various Taverns and watering holes. See which appeals to you, where do you feel at home or think you will fit in.

Maybe it's the banter in the Tavern, the name of a particular Corps or Division, the look of the page or the medals you <s>can</s> <u>will</u> win, but I'm pretty sure one of them will speak to you.

Look around until you have found the spot that is just right for your tent...

Brig Gen Mike Kaulbars Image
3rd "Freiheit" Division
VIII/AoS
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Author:  Rich Hamilton [ Mon May 02, 2005 10:59 am ]
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Very good advice indeed...


LGen. Hamilton
II Corps
ANV, CSA
Author:  caberdanier [ Mon May 02, 2005 11:20 am ]
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Ola,

There are two major differences between the two armies: size and quality.

The Union has more poorer quality troops that are almost uniformly well equiped and are backed by a large artllery corps. Union leadership in the games is of variable quality. The Union also normally has better supplies than the Rebels.

The Confederates have excellant infantry that is well lead. They have a smaller artillery corps that is organized in 4 gun batteries for the most part. They usually have ammunition problems in longer scenarios.

The question then is which arm do you feel most comfortable with? If you prefer infantry then perhaps the Rebels would well suite you. Their infantry tends to stay where it's placed. If you prefer artillery then the Union would be a good choice. Cavalry is hard to play and there are several ways to use them. The Rebels have a large cavalry force that is sometimes poorly equiped. The Union also has an excellant cavalry force but they often aren't available on the field.

Typically the Union will outnumber the Rebels by about a third. If you play battles of attrition choose the Union. If you prefer "One Gallant Rush" choose the Rebels.

Hope this doesn't obscure things too much

Regards,
Maj Chuck Berdanier
2/1/IX, AoO
Author:  CSAML872 [ Mon May 02, 2005 3:44 pm ]
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Maj Chuck Berdanier,

Glad to here that the Confederate Army has better leadership, and the Union leadership "is of variable quality".......[:D] Don't know if my record shows this (but others might), but......oh... you where likely speaking of the leaders in the game...[:D]My mistake....[:)]

Best of Luck Ola Berli--I hope you find whatever choice you make enjoyable. Seems like they have given you great advise.

MG.Michael Laabs
3/III A of M
Author:  Rich Hamilton [ Mon May 02, 2005 11:45 pm ]
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by caberdanier</i>
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There are two major differences between the two armies: size and quality.

The Union has more poorer quality troops that are almost uniformly well equiped and are backed by a large artllery corps. Union leadership in the games is of variable quality. The Union also normally has better supplies than the Rebels.

The Confederates have excellant infantry that is well lead. They have a smaller artillery corps that is organized in 4 gun batteries for the most part. They usually have ammunition problems in longer scenarios.

The question then is which arm do you feel most comfortable with? If you prefer infantry then perhaps the Rebels would well suite you. Their infantry tends to stay where it's placed. If you prefer artillery then the Union would be a good choice. Cavalry is hard to play and there are several ways to use them. The Rebels have a large cavalry force that is sometimes poorly equiped. The Union also has an excellant cavalry force but they often aren't available on the field.

Typically the Union will outnumber the Rebels by about a third. If you play battles of attrition choose the Union. If you prefer "One Gallant Rush" choose the Rebels.
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I think your statements are more geared to the Battleground games rather than the HPS titles. In Peninsula for example both armies have their fair share of low quality troops, and varying gun section sizes. Cavalry is also plentiful in many battles, especially in Gettysburg, but is "expensive" so historical proctices must be observed.

With 5 titles out, and more on the way, differences are well worth noting.

LGen. Hamilton
II Corps
ANV, CSA
Author:  Ola Berli [ Tue May 03, 2005 8:13 am ]
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Bill,

how can I resist a recruiting campaign like that[;)]
AoA looks good, very good.
I fill out the papers later today.

Now let us see how fast the Yankees can Run[}:)]

Ola Berli
AoA
Author:  greenFyre [ Tue May 03, 2005 8:24 am ]
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Ola Berli</i>
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how can I resist a recruiting campaign like that[;)]
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Easy, check the mess tent.

Sorry if you've already signed up; I guess I should have mentioned it earlier ... but yeah, you should definitely check what, <u>and if</u> you get to eat.

But not to worry, I hear possum stew with poke can be ... can be ... can be ... very nutritious, if you're hungry enough, and it's not too old, or raw, or ....

Brig Gen Mike Kaulbars Image
3rd "Freiheit" Division
VIII/AoS
Image

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Author:  CSAML872 [ Tue May 03, 2005 10:28 am ]
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Brig Gen Mike Kaulbars;
Not to worry, if he has Shiloh, him and his men will just pick up some of them Union Vitals, as they run away[:)]
MG Laabs
3/III A of M
Author:  caberdanier [ Tue May 03, 2005 10:53 am ]
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Ola,

Since we've deviated from the serious, some advice. Take along a bar soap for those times you need to foam at the mouth (because you won't find any there!). [;)]

Glad we could offer some advice.

Best wishes,
Maj Chuck Berdanier
2/1/IX, AoO
Author:  A de Mere [ Tue May 03, 2005 2:21 pm ]
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Sir:
The best side is the Rebel. Ours cause is Holy and Just.
In the CSA there is no doubt that the best Army in the American Civil War was the Army of Northern Virginia ...this is equal in the 3rd Millenium.
"Join us in freeing the South of the Yankee invaders. We are only used to seeing their backs....."

Regards:

Major General A. de Meré
1st Corps ANV
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A. de Meré
Author:  nelmsm [ Tue May 03, 2005 2:35 pm ]
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Don't mean to be ugly but do you want to fight to free men or to enslave them?

General Mark Nelms
Union Chief of the Army
Author:  eireb [ Tue May 03, 2005 11:59 pm ]
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Not meaning to be ugly back . . . . But . . . [:D]

To me it would more of a question of "do ye wish to Fight and uphold the basic right of Political Free-Determination by the People or the Tyrannical Imposition of Dictatorial Commercialism and Industrialisation on a "Free" People - (regardless of Race)?

[:I] [B)] [;)]

Pat.

Colonel Patrick G.M.Carroll,
II Corps, Commanding.
"Spartan Southrons"
Army of Georgia,
C.S.A.

" When My Country takes it's rightful place, amongst the Nations of the World, then and only then, let My Epitaph be written. "
Author:  mperrenod [ Wed May 04, 2005 7:05 am ]
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Free determination by whom? Not the 40% who were slaves. If they'd had their say, I doubt there'd have been any majorities for secession.

But that's just reality - this is gaming.[:D]

Lt. Gen. Matt Perrenod
<i>The Blue Ghost</i>
VIII Corps, Army of the Shenandoah
Author:  A de Mere [ Wed May 04, 2005 9:08 am ]
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Gentlemen:
I do not want to initiate the eternal polemic but for Mister Lincoln the slaves were not mattering. Only he used them to attack to the Confederation and to try that they were beginning a revolt.[:(!]
The slaves of the zones controlled by the Union were not liberated[?][?][?]...They were not deserving Mr. Lincoln's good[:0], humanitarian[:p] and disinterested[:)] laws.[:D]

Regards:

Major General A. de Meré
1st Corps ANV

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A. de Meré
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