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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:28 am 
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Gents,

as some of You know, I fights on many fronts and my Red Army
codebreakers have just snapped up important info, new HPS games:

PZC Salerno'43

Campaign Shiloh

Very happy that We get a new campaign, but I can't say that
I have played all the others, just so much time [:D]

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 2:26 am 
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ETA: remember, that HPS won't have these games out for general release for a few weeks... not sure when, but these must be the two "Mystery" games released at Tillercon.

Actually, I'm less interested in Shiloh proper, than in what the "other" battles in the game will be.

Will it include Ft. Donelson? Inquiring minds want to know.

Brig. General Gary McClellan
1st Division, XXIII Corps
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Gary McClellan</i>
<br />Will it include Ft. Donelson? Inquiring minds want to know.

Brig. General Gary McClellan
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MMMMMM.....could be! [:D] In all seriousness, let's just say that the decisive battle of the Campaign doesn't necessarily have to be fought at Shiloh, just as in Gettysburg. If I say anything more than that Rich'll skin me alive!

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Skin you alive?

Oh, c'mon, spill! spill! [}:)]

(and then we'll have Rich post piccies!)

Brig. General Gary McClellan
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 4:40 am 
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Ola Berli</i>
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Very happy that We get a new campaign, but I can't say that
I have played all the others, just so much time [:D]

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Lt. Berli,

Personally, I'm seriously considering quitting my day job so I'll have more time to play [:D] ! (Of course, my wife might have a thing or two to say about that [B)].)

On a more serious note, it is expected that posts in the Mason-Dixon Tavern include your rank, in addition to your army affiliation. (You can add this in your 'profile', found in the upper right-hand corner of the screen, so you don't have to remember it each time. Then you only have to remember it when you get promoted!)

Again, though, thanks for the information. Campaign Shiloh sounds like it could be an earlier-war version of Campaign Corinth. (What campaign with Shiloh in the mix wouldn't include Corinth, only 20 miles away?) Being a Westerner myself, I particulary enjoy the western theater. Good thing I already picked up Campaign Peninsula, or I'd be tempted to skip it and go straight for this one. As it is, I'll go home tonight and see how my piggy bank is looking [:)] -- and anxiously await the official announcement !

If I keep buying games at this rate, though, I'll NEVER save up enough to pick up that painting I want. (See www.johnpaulstrain.com/art/the-horse-marines.htm , or www.dixieprints.com/strain_horse_marines.html [V] )


Your humble servant,
LGen 'Dee Dubya' Mallory

David W. Mallory
ACW - Lieutenant General, Chief of the Armies, Confederate States of America
CCC - Sergeant, Georgia Volunteers, Southern Regional Deaprtment, Colonial American Army


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 6:04 am 
Dudgummit people, ya'll is coming out with these new games much too fast! I haven't even finished my first Gettysburg campaign yet, have a few Peninsula campaigns still going, and now Shiloh! Lordy, how am I supposed to have time for a job and all of these games! I'm just going to have to join Gen. Mallory and quit the job to focus on the more important issues in life!

I was hoping Shiloh would be in the works. There were a lot of missed opportunities in that campaign that could have changed the war drastically. But I especially hope it includes Ft. Donnelson, and the earlier battles, because they were all very related...

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Lt. Col. Alan Lynn
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:05 am 
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Go to duchet.com, they have both listed for pre-order, availability July 1st.

I don't know any more than that, even if you do threaten to skin me alive![:D]

General Jeff Laub
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I was sort of hoping for <i>Campaign: Antietam</i> or a <i>Campaign: Atlanta</i>.

As for the WWII title it sounds really interesting. I am, however, hoping for another Squad Battles game. North Africa, perhaps.

Nevertheless, I will purchase these two titles as they are released and play the H3ll out of them. I have actually completely ceased all computer gaming except for HPS/BG titles as I belong to three online gaming clubs. This one, the NWC, and the PzCC. Although, the <i>Horse & Musket</i> series looks pretty intriguing.

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"My aim was to whip the rebels. To humble their pride. To follow them to their inner most recesses and to make them fear and dread us. War is cruelty! There is no use in trying to reform it. The crueler it is the sooner it will be over."

-<i>William Tecumseh Sherman</i>-


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:55 pm 
its shiloh and it rocks 450 turn fort donnelson to fort "i cant remember now".
prepare for naval warfare also!!!

edit to add that is only one of the big ones there are plenty in it.



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 4:15 pm 
Pre ordered mine a few mins ago!

http://store.navalwarfare.org

$29.99 thats cheap.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 4:52 pm 
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Salerno and Shiloh are available at Tiller Con. Come get your copy tomorrow! Great crowd today and expecting many more tomorrow. Lot's of good visiting and some wicked game playing going on too.[}:)]

Hope to see you here if you can make the drive![8D]

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by sapper99</i>
<br />Pre ordered mine a few mins ago!

http://store.navalwarfare.org

$29.99 thats cheap.

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Lt. Smith, Sir

How can Navalwarfare.com have lower prices than HPS ? There is something I don't understand. (Warfare is my specialty, not economics.)


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:27 am 
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Lt. Smith, Sir

How can Navalwarfare.com have lower prices than HPS ? There is something I don't understand. (Warfare is my specialty, not economics.)

Fld. Lt. Harold Lajoie 3/2/I/AoM, CSA.
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No Clue but they do !! check it out.

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I have asked that question in the past and if i remember correctly Rich responded that they did not want to under price the distributors.

MG Frank DiNola
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Hi Guys,

I don't think this info needs to be made secret, so here is a little info I sent to the HPS website people to help with the July 1st release date. I hope you will enjoy it.

This info relates to Campaign Shiloh:
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>1) 212 Stand alone scenarios plus 80 Campaign Scenarios
>
>2) Turns range from 10 to 450
>
>3) Game includes both Scenario and Campaign editors.
>
>4) Historical Battles include:
> a) Belmont
> b) Fort Henry
> c) Fort Donelson
> d) New Madrid Bend (a.k.a. Island number 10)
> e) Mill Springs
> f) Shiloh
>
> What If Scenarios include:
> a) Cairo (A rebel surprise)
> b) Nashville (Johnston defends the city)
> c) Columbia to Franklin area
> d) Frankfort (A rebel offensive)
> e) Jackson (On the road to Shiloh)
> f) Rebels try to retake Fort Donelson
> g) Street fighting
> h) Fight two battles at once
> i) Naval battles (includes an island hopping scenario)
> j) Large Generic maps with pitched battles
>
>5) Hexes are scaled at 125 yards in size
> Maps are varied in size with the largest being 115x269
>
>6) Game include 6 campaign files
> a) Full Campaign (all battles included)
> b) Alternate Campaign (limited choices for ease of play)
> c) Fort Henry/Fort Donelson
> d) Mill Springs
> e) New Madrid
>
> 7) OOBs include additional troops available for Shiloh and most other
> battles
> a) Van Dorn arrives
> b) Fort Donelson garrison survives to fight another day
> c) Combined OOBs for maximum participation and large scale battles
>
>8) Changes for Campaign Shiloh 1.0
> - Union mortar boats are introduced
> - Confederate gunboats are introduced
> - Gunboat stacking is limited to two per hex.
> - Toggle boats now works. Leaders must be stacked with boat unit.
> - Added gunboat artillery loses to count for victory points.
> - Added the ability to create 2 hour night turns. (.pdt file)
> - Leaders, supply wagons, and limbered arty will not prevent a
> defending unit from retreating after a lost melee.
> - Supply wagons will have the option of counting toward victory points.
> - Defending units will now fire at 100% as a result of melee.
> - A/I Artillery will only fire at valid targets.
> - Arty will fire at full strength during a melee


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