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 Post subject: Campaign Eckmuhl Issues
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2016 9:07 am 
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Paco and Ken found a problem with their Campaign Eckmuhl campaign game they are playing - losses were being assessed to units in future games that had not fought before. They are into the 3rd scenario and units are showing up with a lot of losses that were not in past battles in the campaign.

I had a feeling that the ORG File might be the problem. The ORG file is used to reroute losses to different orgs in the OB file used for the campaign. It also can be used to nullify past losses.

Here is the current Eckmuhl ORG file:

Eckmuhl
1 1
2 2
1.4.2 1.8.2
-1

It should say this:

Eckmuhl
1.4.2 1.8.2
1 1
2 2
-1

What this is saying is:

For ORG formation 1.4.2 (Morand's division of III Corps) take all losses and assess them to 1.8.2 (which is Morand serving under Lannes)

the other lines have to do with normal loss carryover.

So army "1" (the French) will have all losses assessed to army "1" (same army) in all future battles (meaning that Morand in III Corps will also have losses from his own past battles)

Army "2" (the Austrians) will also have all losses carried over.

By putting the unique mapping (1.4.2 to 1.8.2) later as is the case in the file it was messing up the loss carryover also for the Austrians. I do not know why but it did. Ken was seeing units with losses that had never fought in the campaign before.

I will be testing this file out before I release it for the next update.

There is a work around for this in the meantime but it means allowing NO losses to carry over. Here is the work around:

1. Play your first battle. After it ends let it load to the next battle.
2. Open up the .cpf file and note near the top the number of the branch. It will look like this (branch number in bold text):

1809Campaign.cpd
1 3
3p1
1 0

3. Open up the campaign editor ... find the "branch" that is for 3p1 (in this case "Napoleon in Command 20 April 1809") and then close the editor.

4. Open up the campaign game. Start up a NEW campaign. Use a different filename for this campaign than the one you were using (add in Battle2 if you like).

5. In the dialog box where you pick your side, PBEM, etc, look down to the section that has the branch names. Find the branch that applies per the scenario editor step.

6. Start up the campaign game - no losses will have been assessed to units so just know this ....

An awful way to play the campaign but each time you go to a new battle you can play them as "stand alone" battles by simply saving the file as a .btl - and pick the encryption option of course in your options.

Sorry for the inconvenience. I am hoping that this will be corrected after I do the testing. I will reply to this post once the testing has been concluded.

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 Post subject: Re: Campaign Eckmuhl Issues
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2016 1:34 pm 
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Nice to see the even the oldest games of the series get their fixes, many thanks Bill!

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 Post subject: Re: Campaign Eckmuhl Issues
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2016 2:06 pm 
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That's why Bill, Tiller & company stand out above so many others.....games still get time & attention long after they came out....how old is Eckmuhl now?? Almost 15 years old??

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 Post subject: Re: Campaign Eckmuhl Issues
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2016 3:18 pm 
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Exactly, Eckmuhl was released in 2001...

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 Post subject: Re: Campaign Eckmuhl Issues
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2016 6:13 pm 
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Ok....I was gonna say I thought it was somewhere between 2000 & 2002. I actually remember which house I lived in when I got it. :frenchlol:

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 Post subject: Re: Campaign Eckmuhl Issues
PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2016 2:41 am 
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Yes. Many thanks to Bill and all the others who continue to support these games.


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 Post subject: Re: Campaign Eckmuhl Issues
PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2016 6:44 am 
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There are a lot of companies out there that maybe's give you one update for free if your lucky but the usual thing is to buy updates or wait for a newer version of the game to come out and buy it.

I'd say we are very, very, lucky that these patches and updates are free and game designers still work on the original games with feedback from the community that play them.

Many thanks to Bill and all of the others who tirelessly update and upgrade these games with very little if anything in return.

:frenchsalute:

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I echo all the thanks and praise posted above. This has been a great gaming company and community of gamers. Let's keep it going.

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Thanks guys! We try and do our very best.

Now if I can only figure out how to finish off a campaign file this month for my current game project! :frenchlol: Seems like its taking forever. :frenchangry: (I built all of the campaign files for the 1814 game in ONE MONTH - the last campaign file I worked on for this current game took me 3 weeks and I still have 3-4 left to complete)

Age hath its benefits but mental concentration is not one of them! :frenchlol1:

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 Post subject: Re: Campaign Eckmuhl Issues
PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2016 7:16 pm 
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Bill Peters wrote:
Age hath its benefits but mental concentration is not one of them! :frenchlol1:


A certain Fog of War...... :frenchlol:

I know how you feel.... :thumbsup: :frenchsalute: :frenchshock:

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