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 Post subject: Seeking Russian Help - Russian Engineers 1799
PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 10:58 am 
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My first question will be did the Russian army of Rimsky-Korshakov in Switzerland have engineers?

If so ... what did the uniform look like? Can someone supply an image for me. So far I am unable to find an image and I dont read Russian.

Was the uniform similar to the Line infantry or did they wear something different?

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 Post subject: Re: Seeking Russian Help - Russian Engineers 1799
PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 8:03 pm 
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Followup on this:

One website page I found had an old document that said that the uniform for the Pioneer was the same as the Foot artillery only that the buttons and lace were different colors.

Another website had an image of the Pioneer in black and white. The Pioneer was wearing a "casquette" type helmet with cap behind the front piece.

Question on the front piece ... was it silver? That is my guess.

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 Post subject: Re: Seeking Russian Help - Russian Engineers 1799
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Bill,

I didn't manage to find in Miliutin's work a direct reference to presence of engineer troops in Rimsky-Korsakov's corps. On the other hand in the combined army to be commanded by Suvorov in Switzerland a number of engineer units are shown: "a pioneers company, sappers and pontoniers squads". No numbers provided, as if they are not on the muster roll.

Regarding the headgear. The front piece was "english tin". Not silver, of course, but white metal. Your guess is almost correct. The classical work on the Russian uniforms is available online. The direct reference to the pages you need with pics is http://www.runivers.ru/bookreader/book9 ... 5/mode/1up Images of different engineers troops are on pages 120-125:
Page 120 (the top one) A pioneer in 1797-1801
Page 121 (bottom) Pioneer headgear (top) Sapper headgear
Page 122 (bottom) Pioneer NCO and Drummer (top) Sapper
Page 123 (bottom) Pioneer regimental drummer (top) ober-officer of pioneer regiment
Page 124 (bottom) Pontoniers (top) Pontoniers in working outfit
Page 125 officer and NCO of pontoniers companies

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 Post subject: Re: Seeking Russian Help - Russian Engineers 1799
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Thanks for the info, Anton! :thumbsup:

I will check it out today.

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