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Campaign Eylau-Friedland - Halfway Point
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Author:  Bill Peters [ Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Campaign Eylau-Friedland - Halfway Point

I have finished with all of the work on the Winter campaign and now move on to work on the Spring campaign. I will work on the Battle of Friedland first followed by the Battle of Heilsberg. After that some minor battles.

I am going to try and research the Austrian army of 1807 and see if I can put an OB together for them. I will then add in some hypothetical battles. In that I already have maps of Silesia from Leipzig I can come up with a few battles.

The full campaign could offer an option for the Austrians to enter into the war if the Russians can win a major battle. As Napoleon outnumbered the Allies in the Spring it only is natural to come up with some balancing mechanism. The Austrians would only add about 18 images to the game. That would include unique images for the hussars.

Here is a sample image of the "Situation Maps" for CEF. All of the images are done for the Winter campaign. There is a total of seven images.

Image

Author:  Bill Peters [ Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Campaign Eylau-Friedland - Halfway Point

Battle of Friedland OB done. OB_View scenario finished. Working on the researching the battle chronology. Big differences between Zucker and Arnold accounts. Arnold talks about Nansouty's cavalry being lax and attacked by Cossacks while Zucker says nothing about it.

This game has a lot of discrepancies between the accounts ....

Author:  Evgeniy Gudkov [ Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Campaign Eylau-Friedland - Halfway Point

Very good news.

Author:  Genghis [ Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Campaign Eylau-Friedland - Halfway Point

Congratulations to you and your team on the development of such an important and little studied campaign. I am sure that all Napoleonic gaming enthusiasts are anxiously awaiting the sale of the finished product.

Author:  Bill Peters [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Campaign Eylau-Friedland - Halfway Point

Got the word from Rich that the Graphics Team is now available to work on CEF. Loaded up two artwork groups for them to access and begin working on for the Units.bmp file. A total of 17 artwork groups ranging from 6-9 images each will be worked on over the course of the next few months. 3D artwork images will follow after that. No idea on when the game will release. Right now there are 130 images for the team to work on. Compared to RBR's artwork count of 245 that is a lot less for them to handle. Or put another way - Leipzig, 1814 and Bautzen had 310 images (total). We are looking at half the time it took to complete the artwork for those three 1813-14 titles.

RBR - the game which I worked on all last year and part of 2016 - should release sometime in February or March (at the latest) as the 3D and leader image artwork is almost ready for me to review. Keeping the full title a mystery for now. ;) You guys know the period of the game but wanting to keep the name of the title under wraps until its ready to be released.

Author:  Christian Hecht [ Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Campaign Eylau-Friedland - Halfway Point

Late for a contribution to the new game but as I did a bit research for Jena-Auerstedt some interesting things came up that can be useful for the 1807 game.

First the war establishment of the Prussian troops, these are precise numbers for the size of the various Prussian units, 1806 was a little off with most cavalry too large like the line infantry and the grenadiers & fusiliers too small. AFAIK these numbers were not changed for 1807 as any meaningful changes to the Prussian troops only happened after the war had been lost. Not sure if it helps with newly formed units but I'm sure the maximum size wasn't exceeded so the numbers can be at least helpful in that aspect.
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=15937

Next interesting stuff is about the rather bad Prussian musket, it was to be replaced but 1806-07 got in the way. That is a factor that surely should go into the game.
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=15934

Author:  Bill Peters [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Campaign Eylau-Friedland - Halfway Point

The numbers I am using for L'Estocq's corps are much more accurate than numbers I used for the Jena game. For instance here is an extract from the OB Report (care of Dominik Derwinski's OB Editor) for that formation:

Prussian Corps (Corps, 4 305 infantry, 2 978 cavalry, 16 guns)

GLt L'Estocq (C C)
Vanguard/PC (Brigade, 914 cavalry, 8 guns)

GM Pumphner (E C)
1,2/Auer DR6 (Cavalry, 130 men, B)
3,4/Auer DR6 (Cavalry, 129 men, B)
5,6/Auer DR6 (Cavalry, 131 men, B)
7,8/Auer DR6 (Cavalry, 133 men, B)
9,10/Auer DR6 (Cavalry, 127 men, B)
1,2/Gordejov DCR (Cavalry, 106 men, D)
3,4/Gordejov DCR (Cavalry, 105 men, D)
3/Gordejov DCR (Cavalry, 53 men, D)
Bredow HAB(a) (Artillery, 4 guns, B)
Bredow HAB(b) (Artillery, 4 guns, B)

1 Kolonne/PC (Division, 1 390 infantry, 624 cavalry, 4 guns)

GM Auer (E C)
1/1K/PC (Brigade, 1 390 infantry)

Ob Hamilton (E C)
Fabecky Gren (Infantry, 400 men, B)
1/Rüchel IR2 (Infantry, 502 men, C)
2/Rüchel IR2 (Infantry, 488 men, C)

2/1K/PC (Brigade, 624 cavalry, 4 guns)

GM Baczko* (E C)
1,2/Baczko DR7 (Cavalry, 130 men, B)
3,4/Baczko DR7 (Cavalry, 131 men, B)
5/Baczko DR7 (Cavalry, 65 men, B)
1,2/Wagenfeld KR (Cavalry, 149 men, A)
3,4/Wagenfeld KR (Cavalry, 149 men, A)
Rentzel HAB(a) (Artillery, 4 guns, B)

2 Kolonne/PC (Brigade, 1 711 infantry)

GM Rembow (E C)
Schliessen Gren (Infantry, 388 men, B)
1/Schöning IR11 (Infantry, 522 men, C)
2/Schöning IR11 (Infantry, 522 men, C)
1/Stutterheim FB (Infantry, 137 men, B)
2/Stutterheim FB (Infantry, 142 men, B)

3 Kolonne/PC (Division, 1 204 infantry, 660 cavalry, 4 guns)

GM Dierecke (E C)
1/3K/PC (Brigade, 1 204 infantry)

POL Pillar (E C)
Gr/Viborg MR (Infantry, 400 men, below F)
2/Viborg MR (Infantry, 403 men, below F)
3/Viborg MR (Infantry, 401 men, below F)

2/3K/PC (Brigade, 660 cavalry, 4 guns)

ObLt Kall (E C)
1,2/Towarczys (Cavalry, 132 men, B)
3,4/Towarczys (Cavalry, 132 men, B)
5,6/Towarczys (Cavalry, 132 men, B)
7,8/Towarczys (Cavalry, 132 men, B)
9,10/Towarczys (Cavalry, 132 men, B)
Decker HAB(a) (Artillery, 4 guns, B)

Rearguard/PC (Brigade, 780 cavalry)

GM Prittwitz (E C)
1,2/Prittwitz HR (Cavalry, 156 men, B)
3,4/Prittwitz HR (Cavalry, 156 men, B)
5,6/Prittwitz HR (Cavalry, 156 men, B)
7,8/Prittwitz HR (Cavalry, 156 men, B)
9,10/Prittwitz HR (Cavalry, 156 men, B)

Wagon/PC (Supply 400)

This is not ALL of his corps: just those troops that fought at Eylau with the exception of the Rearguard which I add into one of the Variant scenarios to give the Allies more troops to work with.

These numbers from Kevin Zucker's book "1807: Stalemate in the Snow" (Special Study #3) and were compiled by a friend of his.

One of the many reasons why I do not search the German texts is that many of the old books use an ornate font that is just too hard for my old eyes to discern. Frankly I wish that they had used a simpler font but I understand the time when they were compiled. However, I trust the figures in Zucker's books.

For the Russians (and the Russian members will find this interesting) I actually increased the numbers in the infantry battalions because they fought with such courage. I also gave them a +1 fanatical morale rating for the Winter campaign. For the Spring campaign - the Russians revert to using standard morale just like the rest of the forces. Its a game design concept - the Russians fought very well in the Winter - not anywhere near as well in the Spring with Heilsberg being the possible exception. At Friedland - the army was not all that excited about having a river at their backs .... the troops were tired from the long march. They didn't have much faith in Bennigsen at that point.

One thing I learned through reading about Friedland is that Bennigsen moved the army across the Alle River into that terrible position because Popov, the Tsar's military hatchet man, warned him that if he didn't take action Essen would take over. Rather than tell Popov that he would rather lose his command and save the army, he moved most of the army across. Friedland was not the Russian army at its finest.

The Prussian army also had regiments raised that had Polish troops in them. They were prone to desert. As you can see from the OB listed above I have not differentiated from the Polish raised regiments and those of German descent. I cannot find anything in the text that indicates that at Eylau any of the German infantry regiments performed poorly.

Author:  Christian Hecht [ Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Campaign Eylau-Friedland - Halfway Point

Bill Peters wrote:
1,2/Gordejov DCR (Cavalry, 106 men, D)
3,4/Gordejov DCR (Cavalry, 105 men, D)
3/Gordejov DCR (Cavalry, 53 men, D)

Is that a typo in the last unit and should maybe be 5/Gordejov DCR instead?

Bill Peters wrote:
1,2/Wagenfeld KR (Cavalry, 149 men, A)
3,4/Wagenfeld KR (Cavalry, 149 men, A)

That is afaik KR4 in case you want to add a number.

Bill Peters wrote:
1/Stutterheim FB (Infantry, 137 men, B)
2/Stutterheim FB (Infantry, 142 men, B)

If these are companies of the same fusilier battalion you might want to change the name so it's clear that, unlike the other regiments, not battalions but companies are meant.

Bill Peters wrote:
1,2/Prittwitz HR (Cavalry, 156 men, B)
3,4/Prittwitz HR (Cavalry, 156 men, B)
5,6/Prittwitz HR (Cavalry, 156 men, B)
7,8/Prittwitz HR (Cavalry, 156 men, B)
9,10/Prittwitz HR (Cavalry, 156 men, B)

That is afaik HR5 in case you want to add a number.

Bill Peters wrote:
One of the many reasons why I do not search the German texts is that many of the old books use an ornate font that is just too hard for my old eyes to discern. Frankly I wish that they had used a simpler font but I understand the time when they were compiled. However, I trust the figures in Zucker's books.

I can fully understand this, I have a hard time too reading some stuff, the font of that time is just awful and if you have a bad scan it takes ages to get through the material. Still there are some so valuable things that one should not miss.


Bill Peters wrote:
For the Russians (and the Russian members will find this interesting) I actually increased the numbers in the infantry battalions because they fought with such courage. I also gave them a +1 fanatical morale rating for the Winter campaign.

I understand using fanatical morale but to increase the numbers overall sounds like a very strong boost, are the French so strong that this was necessary?

Author:  Bill Peters [ Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Campaign Eylau-Friedland - Halfway Point

No, those are Fusilier battalions and its a company of a battalion. Not changing the name.

For instance:

1 E.Prussian Gren. Bn. - the 1st East Prussian Grenadier Bn.

If I was using companies it would look like this:

1/1 E.Prussian Gren. Bn.

Thus whenever you see a numeral with a slash in front of the name of a battalion its assumed it means companies.

No. Not using the regimental numbers with the Prussians. I did for Jena I don't think but its not necessary for this game.

Thanks for catching the squadron number error for the Cossack regiment. I will fix that. :frenchsalute:

"Still there are some so valuable things that one should not miss." (re: German texts) - well they will just have to be missed. I dont have a helper that can spend the amount of time that Warren did in the old books. ;)

"I understand using fanatical morale but to increase the numbers overall sounds like a very strong boost, are the French so strong that this was necessary?" It has nothing to do with the French strength. It has to do with the ability of the Russians to stand up to their enemies. Had I gone with actual strength there would be many battalions worth 230-280 men. I didn't want to use one unit for a regiment in that case. The units are pretty small as it is. The battalions are anywhere from 320 to 420 men ... some larger ....

Later on for Friedland I took six battalions and created three units from that by:

1. Merging the two regiments grenadier battalions together.
AND
2. Merging the 2nd and 3rd battalions together for each regiment.

The deployment scheme of the Russians with two up and one back is depicted in the Eylau battle scenario but honestly the frontage is not wide enough to do it in every case. You will eventually see just how tight the Russian line is at Eylau. Its wall to wall battalions and guns from the 5th division all the way down to the 2nd division on the left.

Author:  Bill Peters [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Campaign Eylau-Friedland - Halfway Point

I did add in the regimental numbers you suggested as I had already started using them. Thanks again! :frenchvive1:

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