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Benton


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Posted - 07/16/2003 :  05:21:04  Show Profile
I enjoy PBEM games but going against the AI fits my erratic play schedule. I'm selecting my next PzC purchase which will be either Korsun '44 or Rzhev '42 and would appreciate advice on the matter. Because the AI puts on the best show while on the defense, I generally play as the army on the attack in most situations. That would mean me against well prepared Germans in Rzhev '42, and it should be a challenging task to get an Allied victory. Korsun would also have the Soviets attacking the Germans, but they are on the run, if I understand the situation correctly. The surprise of that battle in history was that the Germans slipped away from the superior Soviet forces, yes? Does that mean that the more challenging position is that of the defending Axis player? Or does the AI's inferior attack skill make it easy to get away for German humans? If playing as the Soviet, does one's superior numbers lead to a route against an AI German army? I just want to buy the game more suitable for play against the AI. Am I correct in thinking that Rzhev '42 is the better choice?

Tombstone

USA
14 Posts
Posted - 08/15/2003 :  23:11:36  Show Profile
Rhzev was a lot of fun. You're right about virtual supply trucks, it also increases the operational value of major roads. One of the things I really like about the PzC series was how it compels the player to secure major road networks. I don't think I've played a system that does it more naturally (not that it was an accident).

Tomo
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jarrel

USA
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Posted - 08/15/2003 :  14:15:22  Show Profile  Send jarrel an ICQ Message
I playtested Korsun and yes, the operational/tactical situations on both sides in the campaign is too tough for the AI to handle well.

I wasn't on the playtest team for Rzhev, but am currently playing it as Soviets against the AI to see how it goes. I loaded up most of the options in favor or the axis (virtual supply trucks is a biggie since the supply sources are a LONG way from the front line and the alt artillery fire rule combined with counterbattery fire will cause massive casualties to the tightly packed Soviet formations and really make you think twice about using those 96-tube heavy mortar units.)

So far the game is very bloody but I am making steady progress and after 1 1/2 days have captured Osuga. South of Belyi I am also making good progress. My personal victory condition in this playing is to achieve Zhukov's goal by pocketing of the majority of the German forces .

I don't think I would attempt this campaign as Soviets pbem against a veteran German commander unless the options were loaded in my favor. The default rule settings mostly help the Soviets.

"Comrade" Jarrel
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Tombstone

USA
14 Posts
Posted - 08/08/2003 :  14:42:34  Show Profile
Korsun is a cake-walk as the Soviets. Rhzev was a much bigger challenge. Remember to always turn on art setup, and night fatigue if you want more challenge on the offensive.


Tomo
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Alan Sharif

United Kingdom
111 Posts
Posted - 07/17/2003 :  03:10:07  Show Profile
Another vote for Rzhev 42 here. I have played both titles, through not much of Rzhev, but enough to know there is more variaty and more of a challence in Rzhev. That is not to say Korsun is not a good title, it is, but out of the two Rzhev is the best I think.
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Ricky B

USA
50 Posts
Posted - 07/16/2003 :  13:34:06  Show Profile
The situation for the Soviet forces in Rzhev is tough, in most of the scenarios. The German defenses are difficult to break against the AI, and there are a lot of reserves for most of the scenarios. Play as Soviet against the AI is good (well balanced) in most of the scenarios. PBEM play is tough in some, but there are generally versions that make it easier playing a human defender also. So I think Rzhev will give you a good mix of scenarios for play against the AI, with the potential for good PBEM games also if it fits later on.

For Korsun, I haven't played the AI enough to comment on how it would work there. But I do think the Soviets have enough force to crush the AI as Axis in the longer scenarios anyway.

Rick
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Lee Elmendorf


61 Posts
Posted - 07/16/2003 :  06:33:44  Show Profile
R'42 was one of the few PzC titles that I did not beta test. However historically it would have to be considered a failure for the Soviets. OTOH K'44 was a big win. Based on that I would go with R'42 as it should give you a tougher fight playing against the German AI.
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