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Preacher


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Posted - 06/17/2004 :  15:36:27  Show Profile
Howdy.

Played the Pierce Arrow scenario as the US against the AI this morning. I went straight in with all three raid packages, bombed, photo'd, and egressed. All raid planes landed safely on the carriers. I never saw a single DRV a/c. I never saw a single SAM location or missile. I never saw a single AAA concentration. It was a very, very quiet scenario. Ended as a major US victory. Am I missing something here?

Btw, i double checked several times to make sure that i had the parameters set correctly. US was set to manual and DRV was set to auto with FOW. Any ideas why this might have happened?

Thanks,

Ricky

Adam Parker

Australia
29 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2004 :  19:18:41  Show Profile
PS: Checked some books. Remember this is 1964, the start of a long chapter in US history.

The majority of the VPAF as mentioned was still winding up in China and only after the action would the first MiG 17's be hastily rushed south to little prepared aifields.

This would be followed by the first SAM exports from an eager Soviet Union desperate to find favor with a warm water port ally (at the expense of China), creating what would eventually become the hottest SAM territory on earth.

A massive dose of trial and error on both sides would ensue. View Pierce Arrow as it currently is, as an historical first chapter, in a long story to come. Pierce Arrow gave the US its first POW too.

Adam.

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Adam Parker

Australia
29 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2004 :  10:21:44  Show Profile
Gents, the AI in WOV is not "scripted" in the same manner as other PC titles. Rather AI bombers possess the intelligence to bomb and fighters to intercept all on their own.

Added to that is a degree of randomness in the AI's response. The same number of planes will not usually fly in some scens/SAM's activate and/or both.

I just played this scen and scored an immediate major US victory. A half flight of MiG 17's launched from what I estimate to be Phuc Yen.

All targets other than the Vinh POL Storage facility possess AAA as evidenced by their gray range circles.

So lads what's happening in this scen is: 1) If you hear AAA it's firing but be sure to check the map as the 3 target points are a long way in between to where the action may be; 2) MiG's can scramble - however, as the scen stands there aren't that many of them to do so! 3) There's no VPAF SAM assets on map to light up!

Those are the issues here and I'll see if I can have these looked into for the next update. Historically this raid caused massive damage with 2 US losses to AAA only. Therefore, the scen may be "accurate" as is.

For those having trouble winning - check your assets for multiple bomb loads - you'll need to order subsequent bombing assignments to release those as only one bomb type falls per pass. Also remember the importance of recon.

Adam.


Edited by - Adam Parker on 07/15/2004 19:05:21
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billk

USA
13 Posts

Posted - 07/14/2004 :  21:00:40  Show Profile
Nope, just the target icon.
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Adam Parker

Australia
29 Posts

Posted - 07/14/2004 :  19:41:01  Show Profile
Bilk - when you mention AAA you could hear but not see, were there gray AAA range circles in the areas you were flying?
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zogger


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Posted - 07/14/2004 :  11:26:33  Show Profile
I just played this last night and lost now planes and had no AAA/SAMS/o or MIGs.
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Preacher


2 Posts

Posted - 06/17/2004 :  16:08:38  Show Profile
Hmmm...that is very interesting. Looks like the AI isn't scripted, that's for sure. Maybe i should make another run at it to see what happens.

Ricky

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billk

USA
13 Posts

Posted - 06/17/2004 :  16:04:19  Show Profile
Ijust went in and played the same scenario and suffered a major defeat, lost nine aircraft. Seven to AAA and two to Mig's. No AAA showed on the map but as I went over the trget's I could here it. Even though I clobbered each target I still lost.
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