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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:56 pm 
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I've played WDS Gettysburg for 15 years but I never realized that every single scenario that WDS published, or maybe every one that Doug Strickler created, followed only the historical script after July 3. Before July 3 there are dozens of "what-ifs" and different ways the campaign might go. But every scenario after July 3 begins with the fact that Lee lost at Gettysburg and is retreating.

How much more interesting might the title have been if there were "what-ifs" in which Lee is victorious and Meade is forced back on Washington, Harrisburg, or something. But in every post-Gettysburg scenario Lee is defeated and retreating. Kind of a missed opportunity to make the title much more fun and varied.

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An interesting observation Blake! That is a good thought and maybe one someone could make a Mods about....

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Blake wrote:
I've played WDS Gettysburg for 15 years but I never realized that every single scenario that WDS published, or maybe every one that Doug Strickler created, followed only the historical script after July 3. Before July 3 there are dozens of "what-ifs" and different ways the campaign might go. But every scenario after July 3 begins with the fact that Lee lost at Gettysburg and is retreating.

How much more interesting might the title have been if there were "what-ifs" in which Lee is victorious and Meade is forced back on Washington, Harrisburg, or something. But in every post-Gettysburg scenario Lee is defeated and retreating. Kind of a missed opportunity to make the title much more fun and varied.


A very interesting observation indeed, as Scott noted. The makings of one of your Custom Designed MP's perhaps even :roll: :o :shock:

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There are the Pipe Creek scenarios although they don't assume that Lee won at Gettysburg. Instead, they are built on the premise that Meade decided to not defend at Gettysburg (which was very likely at the time).

I'd also like to see some more what-ifs in the Gettyburg title.
There could be variants on Gettysburg itself: delayed arrivals of various units (many possibilities there that could have actually occurred); and/or early arrival of various units (again, a number of possibilities with Stuart's cavalry being an obvious one).
I can think of other variants too. One I'd like to see is that the ANV doesn't head to Gettysburg but heads further north to Harrisburg before turning south from there. After all, Ewell's Corps was there just a couple of days earlier and Stuart is not too far away. Based upon that you could have a Battle of Harrisburg or Battle of York and subsequent battles based on the different outcomes of them.

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However, above all the supply situation should be fixed in WDS Gettysburg. I see from another thread that Tom Porto did so in his variant and Blake did it for supply wagons in his Gettysburg scenario. I suggest that the simple supply formula that Blake mentioned in one of his videos would be fair and better represent the historical supply situation of both sides.

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All great ideas Paul!

A fight coming down from the mountains along parts of the map would be interesting too....possibly....

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