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Re-Crewing artillery??
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Author:  Pat Thompson [ Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re-Crewing artillery??
Ok, of course when I decide it's feasible to re-crew an artillery battery I look for the lowest morale type troops to do it, 'D's or 'E's...

Question is for a campaign, say a regiment re-crews a 6 gun battery, that means that the regiment loses 300(??) men (or is it 150?) and it's strength goes down accordingly.

For the next battle in the campaign, what happens to those 300(?) men?
Are they just considered casualties and a certain % are returned for the next battle?

What happens to the artillery battery? It started as a 'B', lost its crew, got re-crewed and rated an 'F'. In the next battle of the campaign what is it rated? Back to its original 'B'? I don't remember seeing any batteries starting a battle as an 'F'...

Who knows what??

Thanks,



Col Thompson
1/3/VI
AoS
Author:  Rich Walker [ Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:47 am ]
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Those troops are considered lost for the next battle in a campaign.

The battery will return as normal, not an "F"

Lt. Col. Richard Walker
I Corps
Army of the Mississippi
2nd Brigade, 3rd Division
"Defenders of Tennessee"
Author:  Pat Thompson [ Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:58 am ]
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and as a follow up question...

If a battery is not re-crewed, it still returns an its previously level for the next battle in the campaign?

Thanks..

Col Thompson
1/3/VI
AoS
Author:  Rich Walker [ Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:14 am ]
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If left uncrewed, it will still return as normal for the next battle.

Lt. Col. Richard Walker
I Corps
Army of the Mississippi
2nd Brigade, 3rd Division
"Defenders of Tennessee"
Author:  Jefferson H. Davis [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:31 pm ]
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OK, what about if captured? What about captured, spiked and then abandoned? Questions are for a campaign. Regards, Hank

BG Hank Smith
Army of Georgia
Smith's Texas Division
Smith's Corp
Author:  Jefferson H. Davis [ Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:21 am ]
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Since I got no answer to my question, I finally used Campaign Atlanta to test the question....I capted 4 batteries from each side.....I spiked and abandoned one of them, spiked and remained in control of one.....captured and remained in the hex in control of one, and captured and abandoned one.....All batteries were back in full strength with their side....It appears that the only way to deprive an enemy of their guns is to do it be knocking them out with batterey to battery fire....losses seem to carry over when the is done....Am I wrong about anything? Regards, Hank

BG Hank Smith
Army of Georgia
Smith's Texas Division
Smith's Corp
Author:  mihalik [ Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:18 am ]
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Hi, Hank,

Can't answer your question, but thanks for the info. Historically, a lot of Reb guns started their career as Yank guns, but I don't think they are able to reflect that in the game engine yet.

MG Mike Mihalik
1/III/AoMiss/CSA
Author:  Jefferson H. Davis [ Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:06 am ]
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I knew they did not switch sides.....I knew they had to come back in some form....I thought they might come back as 1 gun batteries only....nope.....full strength.....In my opinion, this needs to be changed.....Regards, Hank

BG Hank Smith
Army of Georgia
Smith's Texas Division
Smith's Corp
Author:  KWhitehead [ Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:44 pm ]
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Jefferson H. Davis</i>
<br />Since I got no answer to my question, I finally used Campaign Atlanta to test the question....I capted 4 batteries from each side.....I spiked and abandoned one of them, spiked and remained in control of one.....captured and remained in the hex in control of one, and captured and abandoned one.....All batteries were back in full strength with their side....It appears that the only way to deprive an enemy of their guns is to do it be knocking them out with batterey to battery fire....losses seem to carry over when the is done....Am I wrong about anything? Regards, Hank

BG Hank Smith
Army of Georgia
Smith's Texas Division
Smith's Corp

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If captured guns are returned to the losing side in the campaign that should be considered a bug and fixed. If true, I think the optional gun rules will have to be turned off for campaigns.

LG. Kennon Whitehead
Chatham Grays
III Corps, AoM (CSA)
Author:  Ross McDaniel [ Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:26 pm ]
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Replacement guns for losses?

I believe that the Union could replace any and all losses, except maybe trained crews. That is perhaps why we see so many D quality yank artillery sections in Gettysburg.

I remember reading that there were more than 200 unused rebel cannons captured at Vicksburg in the artillery depot when Pemberton surrendered. That makes it apparent that sizable losses could be replaced, as long as the manpower was available.

It becomes moot for me, even in campaign games. No big deal.

If it is a big issue for someone, negotiate it up front and remove cannons at the edge or move and hold them in an inactive corner. It does not concern me. I am inclined to treat it as "not an issue."[:)]


BG Ross McDaniel
2nd Bde, 3rd Div, III Corps, AoG, CSA

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