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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 8:11 pm 
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https://stacker.com/stories/movies/50-best-american-war-movies

To determine the best American war movies, Stacker compiled data on all American war movies to come up with the Stacker score—a weighted index split evenly between IMDb and Metacritic scores.

I'm not saying I agree with the outcomes here but I appreciate the methodology being explained.

I won't spoil the list for you but the fact that John Wayne's "They Were Expendable" is rated higher than John Wayne's actual best WW2 film, "Sands of Iwo Jima", is deplorable.

The highest rated Civil War movie will surprise you also (maybe).

The #1 rated War Movie is a classic but is it the "best"? It is in my top ten I admit.

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I don't get it.

What defines 'Amercian war movie'?

I was annoyed to see that two of my favourites don't even appear, The Bridge on the River Kwai and A Bridge Too Far. Both include American soldiers and movie stars and both have high ratings from IMDb. It can't be the setting as a number of the movies listed were made (mostly made) outside of the USA. Although both those movies had British directors scanning through the list there are a number of non-American directors in the 50 films listed. It can't be the production company either as the #1 film listed was produced by Hawk Films, a British film production company (although formed by American filmmaker).
So, what is an American war movie?

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Quaama wrote:
So, what is an American war movie?


To qualify, the film had to have an IMDb user score and Metascore, be American-made, and deal explicitly with the United State's involvement in a war.


In my mind Bridge on the River Kwai and A Bridge too Far are movies about the British War experience.

I visited the Bridge on the River Kwai location a few years back while in Thailand. A total waste of time unfortunately. Nothing to see to be honest. The nearby cemetery for the prisoners was much more interesting than the river crossing.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanchanaburi_War_Cemetery

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Blake wrote:
Quaama wrote:
So, what is an American war movie?


To qualify, the film had to have an IMDb user score and Metascore, be American-made, and deal explicitly with the United State's involvement in a war.


In my mind Bridge on the River Kwai and A Bridge too Far are movies about the British War experience.

I visited the Bridge on the River Kwai location a few years back while in Thailand. A total waste of time unfortunately. Nothing to see to be honest. The nearby cemetery for the prisoners was much more interesting than the river crossing.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanchanaburi_War_Cemetery


LOL, the #1 movie on the list doesn't meet that criteria. The lead actor (who played three roles) was British and the whole thing is fictitious and not based upon the US involvement in a war. It was produced by a British film company, and filmed in its entirety in London, England.

There are others on the list that have little relationship to actual warfare (a few that stood out to me were 8, 11, and 44).

The Bridge on the River Kwai is based on real events (the bridge you saw [which is the one but not on the River Kwai]). It was a wooden bridge but later upgraded and then bombed late in the war. There are a lot of Australians in the war cemetery you visited, and in others in Asia. The majority of them did not die during actual conflict.
The lead actor in The Bridge on the River Kwai was American (William Holden). Although the production company was British (owned by Americans) it was released under the control of Columbia (American).
Its scores were:
IMDb 8.1/10;
Metascore 88/100.
It beats Patton (#7 on the list and another favourite of mine) which had the scores:
IMDb 7.9/10;
Metascore 86/100.

I was glad to see Mister Roberts made the list (another favourite of mine). However, I remain bamboozled by what movies were included when others were omitted.

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Quaama wrote:
I remain bamboozled by what movies were included when others were omitted.


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Meanwhile for those of us who know what an American War Movie is when we see it, I can't put anything above Saving Private Ryan.

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