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Petition to John Tiller re Fort Defenders' Morale
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Author:  D.S. Walter [ Wed Aug 06, 2003 2:40 am ]
Post subject:  Petition to John Tiller re Fort Defenders' Morale

I think we have all seen how the tiny forts we find in many F&I and some 1776 and 1812 scenarios fall to mass routs of the defenders each time. A while ago we had a thread that discussed this problem and came up with what I think would be a viable solution.

http://www.wargame.ch/board/ccc/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3094

Col. Gary McClellan of the Continental Army and I are planning to submit a petition to John Tiller to lobby for the following changes to remedy this shortcoming of the engine:

<font color="yellow"><b>1) Give a +2 morale modifier for units facing an embankment hexside with a down-elevation step (i.e., units manning a defensive position).

2) Disallow negative morale modifiers from enfilade fire passing over such a hexside except when coming from a higher elevation level. </b></font id="yellow">

The combination of both changes should significantly reduce the chance for mass routs of the defending troops in tiny forts, thus allowing those forts to work like they really should, being a protection for the troops manning them rather than a death trap. (For details why exactly this solution is favoured please refer to the thread mentioned above.)

What I need is as many people as possible who would "sign" such a petition (i.e. allow us to put their name and e-mail address on it). The chances that a change suggested by many is considered by John Tiller are obviously significantly higher.

(<font color="yellow"><b>Please let's reserve this thread for officers who are willing to sign the petition, not for discussing the change again</b></font id="yellow">; we have done that before in the other thread. If you don't agree to the solution proposed, simply don't sign. [8)]

And please, Al, don't again discourage everyone with "you can dream but nothing will happen". [:I])

So, who's with us? [:)]


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Supporters so far:

1) Ernie Sands
2) Glyn Hargreaves
3) Mike Cox
4) Garry Cope
5) Phil Natta
6) Richard White
7) Dean Beecham
8) Mike Smith
9) Stefan Reuter
10) Gordon Boggon
11) Tony Malone
12) Jeff Short
13) Scott Reed
14) David Guegan
15) Paul Wakeman
16) Philip Roubaud
17) Atle Jenssen
18) Dan Thorvaldsson
19) Denis du Villaret
20) Larry Davis

and the undersigned (Gary McClellan and my humble self) of course. [:)]

Author:  Ernie Sands [ Wed Aug 06, 2003 4:04 am ]
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Author:  D.S. Walter [ Wed Aug 06, 2003 4:29 am ]
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Ernie Sands</i>
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I'll take that down as "yes", Ernie. [8D]

Author:  Glyn Hargreaves [ Wed Aug 06, 2003 4:48 am ]
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You have my signature Dierk !!

Author:  Mike Cox [ Wed Aug 06, 2003 5:24 am ]
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What the heck, I am in. BUT, I will be billing a hogshead of cider to his Royal Majesties'Forces in the Americas.

Author:  D.S. Walter [ Wed Aug 06, 2003 5:26 am ]
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Mike Cox</i>
<br />What the heck, I am in. BUT, I will be billing a hogshead of cider to his Royal Majesties'Forces in the Americas.
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You don't say! I didn't notice that only we had forts. [:0]

Author:  G Cope [ Wed Aug 06, 2003 10:22 am ]
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Dierk, You can add me to your list if you like. [8)]

Al, I will also do as you ask and spend a little more time on Rich's Feedback Forms. Is there one for engine design suggestions [?]

Author:  367 [ Wed Aug 06, 2003 12:03 pm ]
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I hereby freely afix my signature and title to the proposed petition and document, this sixth day of our Lord, August, 2003. [:D]
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Author:  Dean beecham [ Thu Aug 07, 2003 12:25 pm ]
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Hi.
I am new here but go for it,I am with you all the way.

Author:  Michael Smith [ Thu Aug 07, 2003 1:58 pm ]
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Count me in as well!

Mike Smith
Gentleman-In-Training
British Army

Author:  Stefan Reuter [ Fri Aug 08, 2003 6:16 am ]
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Sure, I support it too.[^]

Author:  Gary McClellan [ Fri Aug 08, 2003 7:23 am ]
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I trust you put me in with "undersigned"

Author:  D.S. Walter [ Fri Aug 08, 2003 7:32 am ]
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Gary McClellan</i>
<br />I trust you put me in with "undersigned"
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Sure--impossible to express the plural there in English. [8)]

Author:  Uxbridge [ Sat Aug 09, 2003 12:38 am ]
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Here Here !! I am with you sir.

Author:  Tony malone [ Sat Aug 09, 2003 3:24 am ]
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Dierk, add my name to the list. So far I have yet to hold a single fort for any amount of time, they all run.

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