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Author:  Bill Peters [ Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Abbreviation - German Duke - Needed
What is the abbreviation for the word "Herzog" in German?

Erzerzog is ER (or ERZ).

Is Herzog HR (or HRZ)?

Updating the Eckmuhl OB today and wanted to abbreviate the word if I could to save space.

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Author:  Al Amos [ Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:49 pm ]
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Bill,

You may find this page useful

http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/hunggerm.htm

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Author:  S_Trauth [ Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:15 pm ]
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I'd seen Herzog used on the German Wikipedia site as "Hz." - however in checking on a dedicated abbreviation site -- it shows as :
Hzg.

http://abkuerzungen.woxikon.de/abkuerzung/herzog.php

On German language Wikipedia they are claiming that Erherzog is:
Ehzg. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erzherzog <s> there isn't anything on Erherzog showing on the dedicated abbrev site ( which is - very... "unGerman"... :D</s>

I take that back- I must have typed the word in wrong...

http://abkuerzungen.woxikon.de/abkuerzung/ehzg..php Ehzg.

Not much of a savings when you abbreviate-- but that's German for you.... they love combining words in that language ... like Goetterammerdung etc ... not shorten them.

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Author:  D.S. Walter [ Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:36 am ]
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Hzg. and Ehzg. or Erzhzg. are the most common abbreviations.

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Author:  Bill Peters [ Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:11 am ]
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Thanks guys. Really helps!

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Author:  Bill Peters [ Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:24 am ]
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Question: I have also seen ER on the horse furniture as well and in other places. That is normally how I abbreviate Archduke.

Does anyone see an error with that?

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Author:  D.S. Walter [ Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:43 am ]
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Bill Peters</i>
<br />Question: I have also seen ER on the horse furniture as well and in other places. That is normally how I abbreviate Archduke.
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I thought ER is Elisabeth Regina. Never seen it as an abbreviation of Erzherzog. German abbreviations tend to use letters from all over the word (H[er]z[o]g), not the first two.

The proper abbreviation in German is definitely Ehzg., unless you like the somewhat longer Erzhzg. Take my word on it. I have studied this stuff half my life.

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Author:  John Sheffield [ Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:20 am ]
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Bill, Elizabeth Regina is immediately what I thought of too when I read ER.

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Author:  Bill Peters [ Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:01 pm ]
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Thanks much guys.

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