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Author:  clifton seeney [ Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Dismounted Dragoons 1813

Just noticed my dismounted Dragoons can't shoot ????

Author:  Tony Barrett [ Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dismounted Dragoons 1813

Believe Dragoons in infantry role are not represented

Author:  MCJones1810 [ Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dismounted Dragoons 1813

That is correct, Cliff. Bill was always adamant on that point. I always disagreed, but get more use out of my mounted Dragoons anyway. I would only dismount them under very exceptional circumstances myself. It never has happened in any of my games to date.

Author:  clifton seeney [ Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dismounted Dragoons 1813

Well that's just crazy ride up on a flank and open fire what better way to disorder a unit why are they dismounted then ?

Author:  Mike Friedman [ Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dismounted Dragoons 1813

clifton seeney wrote:
Well that's just crazy ride up on a flank and open fire what better way to disorder a unit why are they dismounted then ?


If you are going to ride up on a flank, why not just charge?

The only time I would consider using them dismounted is if I was playing a game with some sort of house rules about cavalry in chateau's or villages, and a situation called for them to enter the hex.

Also, if I am not mistaken, they only dismount into line formation, so any kind of movement is going to be much slower than with them mounted.

Author:  clifton seeney [ Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dismounted Dragoons 1813

Well Monsieur guess you don't look at Let's play Napoleonic warfare on youtube?

Author:  Todd Schmidgall [ Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dismounted Dragoons 1813

Salute!

I've always found the issue of dismounted Dragons to be very confusing in these games.

I know of at least one scenario (Austerlitz game) where Dragons can dismount and use musket fire.
I see in updates for the various games that it will say included is use of dismounted Dragons, yet I can never discover them.

In my opinion it should be standardized throughout the games.
If they can dismount they should be able to fire.
If I recall correctly the range was 1 hex in the Austerlitz scenario I've played.

Regards,

Author:  clifton seeney [ Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dismounted Dragoons 1813

Image

Author:  MCJones1810 [ Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dismounted Dragoons 1813

Interesting. I actually did not know that Bill allowed Drgoons to fire in any scenario. :o :shock: :?

Author:  Todd Schmidgall [ Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Dismounted Dragoons 1813

Salute!

MC Jones wrote: Interesting. I actually did not know that Bill allowed Dragoons to fire in any scenario.

Austerlitz, scenario 1A Wertingen.
Pretty fun scenario, not only for the use of Dragons that can dismount and fire if you choose.

Regards,

Author:  clifton seeney [ Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Dismounted Dragoons 1813

Image Dragoons on the flanks power weapon !

Author:  clifton seeney [ Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Dismounted Dragoons 1813

Image Russian Dragoons at the ready

Author:  Christian Hecht [ Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dismounted Dragoons 1813

Well Looking at Leipzig I only see dragoons armed with swords, not much sense to dismount them when there is no firepower they can use to harass the enemy.

Author:  Colin Knox [ Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dismounted Dragoons 1813

In Jena 1806 you have several btns of dismounted dragoons at the beginning. They were used as infantry in this campaign due to a shortage of horses. Armed with a Carbine they fire at 1 hex range only but I think this is realistic. There are a number of personal accounts of cavalry units both mounted and dismounted using their carbines for skirmishing and in 1806 for line fire. So its a shame they cannot fire like in Jena.

Nice pics as always Cliff :mrgreen:

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