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Another Victory at Waterloo-History Changed Once More!
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Author:  Aloysius Kling Sr [ Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Another Victory at Waterloo-History Changed Once More!
The
Emperor Napoleon
Image
:frenchvive1: Congratulates :frenchvive1:
The La Grande Armée's
Général en Chef Pierre Desruisseaux
on his recent Major Victory
on the
Battlefield of Waterloo!

Please join us in a to toast to the
Général en Chef
on his Victory!

Battle On...
Author:  Todd Schmidgall [ Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:46 pm ]
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Salute!

Congratulations General en Chef Desruisseaux! :frenchvive1:

You bring honor & glory to L'Empereur's eagles! :eagle:

Helga, a drink if you please to toast our hero!

Regards,
Author:  MCJones1810 [ Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:38 am ]
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Congratulations, Pierre. :P :P :P
Author:  clifton seeney [ Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:47 pm ]
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I have never seen so many Prussian run so fast in all the 1815 games I played just unbelievable
Author:  clifton seeney [ Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:55 pm ]
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Now concerning what you just said Monsieur Andy why is it that I can't get more Frenchmen to play the big games. the way I see it the allies numbers mean very little if they can't get their armies together!
Author:  Todd Schmidgall [ Sat Aug 23, 2014 2:11 pm ]
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Salute!

Cliff wrote:
clifton seeney wrote:
Now concerning what you just said Monsieur Andy why is it that I can't get more Frenchmen to play the big games. the way I see it the allies numbers mean very little if they can't get their armies together!


Cliff, if one is playing the scenario 007 (without fixed units), there is no reason why the Allied and Prussian forces cannot concentrate at a point ahead of the French - as I have done it myself.

And if one is playing one of the Hypo scenarios that has the opposing armies begin on opposite sides of the battle map - again, there is absolutely no reason why the Coalition armies cannot become concentrated.

In the 007 scenario, even such a concentration will only allow there to be some 120,000 Coalition troops vs nearly the same amount of French - as the significant Coalition reinforcements will not arrive in strength until the 17th/18th (or day's 3-4 of the campaign).

So, even if the Coalition is concentrated during the first two days of the campaign the odds are still 1-1, which favors the French overall due to their superior quality of troops, particularly among their cavalerie.

These odds (1-1) should compel the Coalition player to choose his battle ground carefully, to account for the terrain providing defensive vs the perceived French advantages.

Of course, a more dangerous and subtle strategy could be employed, which is keeping the Coalition armies fragmented from one another, basically the Prussians east of the Charleroi pike, and the Allies to the west.

But this also means that both of these armies must remain out of immediate range of the French being able to target one of them for destructions, and if such occurs, they must be able to support their comrades with the other army - which may find itself blocked in the attempt by a pinning force left by the French for this purpose.

Of course in the Hypo scenarios, the Coalition enjoys the 2-1 advantage in strength from the beginning, so achieving a concentration should enable the Coalition to win a victory in the end.

Regards,
Author:  clifton seeney [ Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:06 pm ]
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Todd you are one of a few who will play these big games and win but a lot of the Generals say the games are to long or the 2-1 avenge is to great to overcome. Every thing you said is true ! But my question was WHY do the French cry about 2-1 odds
Author:  Todd Schmidgall [ Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:10 am ]
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Salute!

Cliff wrote:

Todd you are one of a few who will play these big games and win but a lot of the Generals say the games are to long or the 2-1 avenge is to great to overcome. Every thing you said is true ! But my question was WHY do the French cry about 2-1 odds?

Because not even Napoleon would have much chance of success in a pitched battle with 1-2 odds against him.

I can think of only one battle where such odds were nearly that, at Dresden.
And the French success in that several day engagement was based on a superb defensive position in and around that city, and it was the terrain itself, and the advantage the French took of it that helped provide the French victory.

The terrain effectively divided the Coalition army into fragmented sections that were unable to support one another, and the French concentrated superior strength against each sector in successive phases of operations.

Regards,
Author:  Scott Clawson [ Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:38 am ]
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Getting back to the original post,

Congrats Pierre!
Author:  clifton seeney [ Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:59 pm ]
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I know of very few Allied officers who have won 1815 battles and very few have played the big ones. Now that Prussian officers who congrads to FM Pierre most know that he was the founder of this club and one of the most out standing Commanders in this in other clubs if you can beat him you are truly a great technical knowledge. I would congratulate any officer on any side who plays FM Pierre.
Author:  Genghis [ Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:40 am ]
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Congratulations General Desruisseaux on this victory.
Author:  Jim Hall [ Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:33 pm ]
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Gentlemen

You will all enjoy the UK next year and as you depart that famous London railway station you will not have to ponder too long to know why it is named thus. Reality Check :frenchwink1:
Author:  Colin Knox [ Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:36 pm ]
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Or even worse you could live in a city named after the Iron Duke himself.
Where you near by towns include Picton and Nelson and the main railway hub share's the name of the station Jim refers to. Water something.

Of course if you grew too weary you could move to Malborough a famous wine region and stay in the capital Blenheim.
Or perhaps stay in our city and move to the nearby street Maadi place.

Oh the colonies! At least the All Blacks keep the old foe honest.
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