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Non phased vs phased game turn, round two.
https://www.wargame.ch/board/nwc/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8361
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Author:  The Highlander [ Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:34 am ]
Post subject:  Non phased vs phased game turn, round two.

As recommended by Rich White in my first thread on this subject, here are some questions that all members of the NWC are urged to respond to:

1./ Do you play the HPS games in multiphase mode, and if so do you play all/most/many of your games in this way or just the occasional game.

2./ Do you still only/mainly/sometimes play the BG games because you don't like HPS single phase mode and find that the HPS multiphase mode in its current form is inferior to the BG engine.

3./Would you play the HPS games in multiphase mode if the missing BG elements - square forming and cavalry counter-charging in the defensive phase and the subsequent charge phase - were restored?

4./ Would you be more likely to buy/buy more HPS games if the missing BG elements were restored to the HPS engine? or

5./ Would you be more likely to buy/buy more HPS games if the only Automatic Defensive fire were restored to the HPS engine for the Napoleonic games, as it is already in all of the other HPS engines?

Lt. Bill Spitz
1/27th Regiment of Foot (The Inniskillings)
10th Brigade, 6th Division
Anglo-Allied Army

Author:  The Highlander [ Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:47 am ]
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Okay, since I raised the subject to begin with I will happily answer the questions.

1./ Do you play the HPS games in multiphase mode, and if so do you play all/most/many of your games in this way or just the occasional game?

I will ONLY play in this mode.

2./ Do you still only/mainly/sometimes play the BG games because you don't like HPS single phase mode and find that the HPS multiphase mode in its current form is inferior to the BG engine?

I will play either HPS or BG games in the multiphase mode that each has. Except for the additional elements of the BG games, they both require 6 e-mails to complete a full turn.

3./Would you play the HPS games in multiphase mode if the missing BG elements - square forming and cavalry counter-charging in the defensive phase and the subsequent charge phase - were restored?

YES!!

4./ Would you be more likely to buy/buy more HPS games if the missing BG elements were restored to the HPS engine? or

IN THE NAPOLEONIC SERIES - YES!!

5./ Would you be more likely to buy/buy more HPS games if the only Automatic Defensive fire were restored to the HPS engine for the Napoleonic games, as it is already in all of the other HPS engines?

YES, THAT TOO WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO ME!!

Lt. Bill Spitz
1/27th Regiment of Foot (The Inniskillings)
10th Brigade, 6th Division
Anglo-Allied Army

Author:  Richard [ Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:13 pm ]
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1./ No, only in single phase mode

2./ Sometimes play the BG games, which is superior to HPS multiphase mode for reasons already stated. NB: I'm confident that changes currently being tested for single phase mode will improve that method of playing, but this wouldn't necessarily make a restored multiphase mode redundant as a viable alternative way of playing.

3./ Yes, but would no doubt also continue playing some games in single phase mode too. I'm not sure what percentage would be in multiphase mode - maybe 40% of games, maybe as high as 60%?

4./ N/A

5./ No


Maj. Rich White
4th Cavalry Brigade
Cavalry Corps
Anglo-Allied Army

Author:  Bill Peters [ Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:20 pm ]
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1. No, N/A
2. No.
3. Yes.
4. N/A to me of course but if I was a customer I must be honest and say yes. The more options to a game the better.
5. Yes. At least this way you have the ability to play with multi or single phase and still do only 1 file per player/turn.

LOL - this is like one of my polls! [:D]

Bill Peters
HPS Napoleonic Scenario Designer (Eckmuhl, Wagram and ... more to come)

[url="http://www.fireandmelee.net"]Fire and Melee Wargame site[/url]

Author:  Jeka [ Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:33 pm ]
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1. No
2. No
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. No

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RA Chief of Staff
Leib-Gvardii Semenovskij Polk
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Author:  Jim Hall [ Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:59 am ]
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No
No
No
No
No

Step backwards for me I like the "ebb and flow" its "fencing" against "Chess" [;)]

Field Marshal Sir "Lucky" Jim (K.G.)
Commander 2nd. Corps
Allied/Dutch Army
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Author:  John Sheffield [ Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:53 am ]
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1. No
2. No
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. Yes

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1st Btn/91 Regiment of Foot <font color="white">
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Author:  D.S. Walter [ Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:29 am ]
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1. No.
2. Yes.
3. Yes, absolutely.
4. No. I will acquire all HPS games for this era no matter what.
5. No. See above.

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Author:  Ernie Sands [ Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:44 am ]
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1. No. (I will play, if needed, though.)
2. No.
3. Yes. I'll play them no matter what.
4. Not at all. I buy all HPS and/or Tiller games.
5. No.

<b><font color="gold">Ernie Sands
GdD,1e Brig,1eme Div,VI Corps,AdR
President, Colonial Campaign Club
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Author:  Colin Knox [ Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:44 am ]
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1. Yes will only play multiphase
2. Yes I like BG games but no more or no less than HPS
3. Indifferent I am happy as is
4. No I will buy them anyway
5. No I prefer manual defensive fire like in BG


Capitaine Colin Knox,
4e Comp / 2e Artillerie a Cheval
2e Brigade
3e Division Cavalerie Legere
IIIe Corps
Armee du Nord

Author:  buffpilot [ Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:57 am ]
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1) Never. Play with embedded melee rule though. Why play HPS multiphase?
2) I like both games, slowly switching to HPS only due to the games speed (On turn 80 in a multiplayer started n January - no chance of doing that in BG), so no
3) No. Again speed is the issue.
4) That would not effect my decision, so No
5) I play no HPS games other than Napoleonics, so can't answer

General de Division Doug Fuller
Duc de Montmorail et Comte de Hainaut
2e' Grenadiers a' Pied de la Vielle Garde
I Corp Commander
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Author:  The Highlander [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:02 pm ]
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Gentlemen,

Come now surely we can get a few more of you to reply. This has been read over 90 times, but only has ten responses. Are there no others who wish to weigh in with there opinions?[?][8)]

Lt. Bill Spitz
1/27th Regiment of Foot (The Inniskillings)
10th Brigade, 6th Division
Anglo-Allied Army

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