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Author:  D.S. Walter [ Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:12 am ]
Post subject:  Leader VP
Does anyone know how the VP value of leaders is determined? I was surprised to see, in an Eckmuhl game, that Maréchal Lefebvre rated only 54 VP on capture, however, General Wrede, who succeeded him in VII Corps command, later on was worth 60 VP!, even though he was only a replacement commander. Any ideas?

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D.S. "Green Horse" Walter, Maréchal d'Empire
Duc des Pyramides, Comte de Normandie
Commandant la [url="http://home.arcor.de/dierk_Walter/NWC/3_VI_AdR_Home.htm"]3e Division Bavaroise[/url], L'Armée du Rhin
Commandant [url="http://home.arcor.de/dierk_Walter/NWC/EdM_start.htm"]L'Ecole de Mars[/url], L'Armée du Rhin
Commandant les Grenadiers à Pied de la Vieille Garde, "les Grognards"
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Author:  Bill Peters [ Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:32 am ]
Post subject: 
Dierk - was Wrede captured? Captured leaders count x2. Here is the blurb on leaders from the manual:

If the Optional Rule awarding Victory Points for Leader Casualties is selected in the current battle, then these points are included in the Losses display and included in the calculation for Total Points. The points assigned for a Leader Casualty are calculated as follows:

· The Leader’s Command value is converted into a numeric value using the assignment A = 6, B = 5, …, F = 1.

· To this value, the Leader’s Leadership value is added using the same numeric assignment.

· Depending on the command level of the Leader, the value is multiplied by a factor:

o Army Leader => Factor = 4

o Wing or Corps Leader => Factor = 3

o Division Leader => Factor = 2

o Brigade Leader => Factor = 1 (no change)

· Finally, the value is modified according to how the Leader became a casualty:

o Killed => No change

o Wounded => Value is halved

o Captured => Value is doubled

Bill Peters
HPS Napoleonic Scenario Designer (Eckmuhl, Wagram, Jena-Auerstaedt and ... more to come)

[url="http://www.fireandmelee.net"]Fire and Melee Wargame site[/url]
Author:  D.S. Walter [ Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:57 am ]
Post subject: 
Both were captured, hence the direct comparison.

Thanks! I had been looking for that sort of info for some while. [:)]

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D.S. "Green Horse" Walter, Maréchal d'Empire
Duc des Pyramides, Comte de Normandie
Commandant la [url="http://home.arcor.de/dierk_Walter/NWC/3_VI_AdR_Home.htm"]3e Division Bavaroise[/url], L'Armée du Rhin
Commandant [url="http://home.arcor.de/dierk_Walter/NWC/EdM_start.htm"]L'Ecole de Mars[/url], L'Armée du Rhin
Commandant les Grenadiers à Pied de la Vieille Garde, "les Grognards"
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Author:  Bill Peters [ Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:09 pm ]
Post subject: 
Dierk - here are the values for the two officers:

L 4 6 65 GD Wrede
L 4 5 60 Marechal Lefebvre

Thus I rank Wrede better than that Lefebvre and thus Wrede will tally up to:

10 x VP multiple

while Lefebvre is worth:

9 x VP multiple

Overall Wrede showed alot of poise and command presence in this campaign. Obviously better than the Crown Prince (8 x VP mulitple). Deroy would be 7 x VP Multiple.




Bill Peters
HPS Napoleonic Scenario Designer (Eckmuhl, Wagram, Jena-Auerstaedt and ... more to come)

[url="http://www.fireandmelee.net"]Fire and Melee Wargame site[/url]
Author:  Neville Worland [ Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:57 pm ]
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Both obviously believed in leading from the front! That's what I like to see, senior generals mixing it with the boys.
Author:  D.S. Walter [ Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:35 am ]
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Neville Worland</i>
<br />Both obviously believed in leading from the front! That's what I like to see, senior generals mixing it with the boys.
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In the situation in which they were captured, the front was all around them, and the distance from front to rear was about two hexes for Lefebvre, and zero for Wrede. [;)]

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D.S. "Green Horse" Walter, Maréchal d'Empire
Duc des Pyramides, Comte de Normandie
Commandant la [url="http://home.arcor.de/dierk_Walter/NWC/3_VI_AdR_Home.htm"]3e Division Bavaroise[/url], L'Armée du Rhin
Commandant [url="http://home.arcor.de/dierk_Walter/NWC/EdM_start.htm"]L'Ecole de Mars[/url], L'Armée du Rhin
Commandant les Grenadiers à Pied de la Vieille Garde, "les Grognards"
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