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One more time about AdC and ... reconnaissance
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Author:  Prince Repnin [ Wed May 30, 2007 5:40 pm ]
Post subject:  One more time about AdC and ... reconnaissance
My suggestion about the using of AdCs "figures"for the more realistic improvement of HPS' Command&Control system didn't get any interest. Nobody wishes to trifle with those "Staff rats". OK.
Let's use the present "dove mail" system of commanding.[:D]
But everybody values the importance of reconnaissance in our "foggy" battlefields, and everybody knows the company of infantrymen or squadron of cavalrymen are too bulky and attackable for that kind of mission. May be a corps of AdCs/Guides/Quatermeisters from Division/Corps/Army Staff could do it better? "Figures" of cavalrymen with the practicability of skirmishers and movementability of Division/Corps/Army commanding officers.
The realistic, historicly approved and very helpful idea, I believe.

GM Vladimir Repnin
2nd Grenadier Div.
8th Corps
2nd H.E.M. West Army
Author:  Dejan Zupancic [ Thu May 31, 2007 4:53 am ]
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I don't think ADCs went roaming around the countryside w/o protection -which would happen in our games. They were attached to cavalry squadrons because a commander usually trusted them more than line officers, plus they had broader picture of the current situation around them.
And after all reconnaissance and screaming of their own army was always the main task of light cavalry.
I think current situation is perfectly fine, I can do fine recon with just a few squadrons.

General Dejan Zupancic
Duc d'Eylau et Comte de St. Pol

Division de Cavalerie Saxonne
VII Corps d'Armee
L' Armée du Rhin

Brigade de Fusilier-Chasseurs
Division d'Infanterie
la Moyenne Garde
Author:  Kosyanenko [ Thu May 31, 2007 5:53 am ]
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Both unhistorical. ADCs were really sent for recon missions. Sometimes with no cover - when there was no danger. But usually they were really protected by cavalry. But not squadrons - mere platoons. Just read about the actions of cossacks here and there you meet expressions like (captured 30-40 men and one staff officer, or engeneer, or ADC). Difference is obvious.

The thing really needed IMO is a formation for cavalry that would allow to pass across the streams and through the woods with no disruption, i.e. open order for cavalry.

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<center><b>Eyo Imperatorskogo Velichestva Leib-Kirassirskogo polku
General-Mayor Anton Valeryevich Kosyanenko
Commander of the Second Army of the West </b></center>
Author:  Dejan Zupancic [ Thu May 31, 2007 7:45 am ]
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Kosyanenko</i>
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The thing really needed IMO is a formation for cavalry that would allow to pass across the streams and through the woods with no disruption, i.e. open order for cavalry.
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I agree on this (but for lights only).

General Dejan Zupancic
Duc d'Eylau et Comte de St. Pol

Division de Cavalerie Saxonne
VII Corps d'Armee
L' Armée du Rhin

Brigade de Fusilier-Chasseurs
Division d'Infanterie
la Moyenne Garde
Author:  Kosyanenko [ Thu May 31, 2007 8:55 am ]
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Sure. That should be the difference between lights and heavies othervise the later just seem to be a kind of supercav capable to do everything!

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<center><b>Eyo Imperatorskogo Velichestva Leib-Kirassirskogo polku
General-Mayor Anton Valeryevich Kosyanenko
Commander of the Second Army of the West </b></center>
Author:  Vertigus [ Thu May 31, 2007 9:26 am ]
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I can imagine 40men squadrons crossing rivers one at a time without disruption, but 400-600 men detachments or stacked squadrons? And in woods in particular? I just can't imagine that.

Cadet Rafal Wertygus
Ecole Militaire
Author:  Al Amos [ Thu May 31, 2007 3:10 pm ]
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Take a look at my scenarios for Eckmuhl. "April Fools" is one title, I think. They're located at the Games Squad forum.

You'll find HQ staffs for both countries at all levels.

Colonel Al Amos
1erè Brigade Commandant
2ème Division de Dragons
Author:  clifton seeney [ Thu May 31, 2007 4:29 pm ]
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Oui the best is a small glass of port merci!

Col de Art 6/3 II Corps AN Marbot CS
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