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| Author: | John Corbin [ Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:23 am ] |
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If we look past the military aspects of his reign, Can any good be attributed to Napoleon ? <center> [img]</center> <center> [img]</center> <center>Monsieur le Marechal Baron John Corbin Commanding L'Armee du Rhin Grande Duc de Piave et Comte de Beauvais Commanding the Division de Cavalerie de la Moyenne Garde NWC President</center> |
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| Author: | Ernie Sands [ Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:12 am ] |
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Of course! http://www.theotherside.co.uk/tm-heritage/background/sugar.htm Napoleon Brandyhttp://www.solarnavigator.net/solar_cola/brandy.htm http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/103928 [:D] <b><font color="gold">Ernie Sands General, 1ère Brigade, 19ème Division, VI Corps, Armee du Rhin President, Colonial Campaign Club </b></font id="gold"> |
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| Author: | Ed Blackburn [ Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:31 am ] |
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I believe the Frecnh still use the laws of Code Napoleonic to this day. Major General Ed Blackburn Commanding Second Div, II Corps, AAA 3rd Bn / 1st Regiment of Foot Guards 
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| Author: | Yann Lamezec [ Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:36 am ] |
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by zinkyusa</i> <br />I believe the Frecnh still use the laws of Code Napoleonic to this day. Major General Ed Blackburn Commanding Second Div, II Corps, AAA 3rd Bn / 1st Regiment of Foot Guards
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote"> The code civil was fortunately reformed. But it was change I think, in 1980's (I am not sure). He let France : the Legion of Honneur, the administrative organization (only changed in part in 1982), and such things like that. The French have not a so bad idea about him that the other Europeans. The prove is that when some historians of differents European countries tried to write an European story book ten years ago, they would not be able to come to an agreement about the Napoleonic era and the chapter was write differently in the french version. I understand why the other Europeans have a bad idea of Napoleon and I share some of the opinion they develop about his ambituous wars. Anyway I think that the truth is as always, at the middle : he made a lot in Europe but the people hated rightly the reform imposed by force. Sure that like them, I should hate if a German, a British, a Spanish or any other European imposed by force to my country some reforms even these reforms were, for some of them, good for my country. Best regards General Lamezec Prince et Comte de Davout French CIC |
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| Author: | Colin Knox [ Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:34 am ] |
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Hi All I agree with Yann's comments. I would add Napoleon had a vision similar to the EU except he wanted to be the boss[:D]. The other side of the coin was that as the people's leader he was a threat to the old order. I recall under N the average person in France could hold and own land. A revolutionary tradition that he maintained. This was a huge threat to the autocratic states that formed the coalition's against him. Perhaps some of our resident scholars can comment with more accuracy on this. Vincent Cronin has written a good book on Napoleon entitled 'Napoleon'. It outlines the enormous industry with which N contributed to pretty much everything from foreign exchange systems to the laws and lots more. He was an incredible talent really. Unfortunately he was a man of his times in ego and war was the thing of which he was the greatest master. A pitty now days he would be Bill Gates I guess. Regards Colin Colonel Colin Knox, Baron de l'Empire 2e Regiment Gardes d'Honneur La Jeune Garde IIIe Corps ADN http://www.aspire.co.nz/colinknoxnwc.htm 
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| Author: | clifton seeney [ Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:30 am ] |
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Considering, the western mind set and the western thoughts of that day and the need for the west to control the vast resources of the world he was the leader. The French revolution freed many and Napoleon stopped the “fraternity of man “the all western thought was reintroduced at a greater level. And he wanted to be the new Caesar to lead the West in conquest of the world. So if you believe that the west should rule the world and its, inhabits then he did a lot but he did establish the way for the next three world wars that are still going on as we speak. Col de Art 6/3 II Corps AN Marbot CS |
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| Author: | Bill Peters [ Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:55 am ] |
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YES! We wouldnt be playing these games without him! [:D] Bill Peters Armee du Rhin - V Corps, Cavalerie du V Corps, 20ème légère Brigade de Cavalerie, 13ème Hussar Regiment HPS Napoleonic Scenario Designer (Eckmuhl, Wagram, Jena-Auerstaedt and ... more to come) [url="http://www.fireandmelee.net"]Fire and Melee Wargame site[/url] 
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| Author: | Ed Blackburn [ Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:04 am ] |
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Bill Peters</i> <br />YES! We wouldnt be playing these games without him! [:D] Bill Peters Armee du Rhin - V Corps, Cavalerie du V Corps, 20ème légère Brigade de Cavalerie, 13ème Hussar Regiment HPS Napoleonic Scenario Designer (Eckmuhl, Wagram, Jena-Auerstaedt and ... more to come) [url="http://www.fireandmelee.net"]Fire and Melee Wargame site[/url]
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote"> eheheh, Bill goes right to the heart of the matter.[:D] Major General Ed Blackburn Commanding Second Div, II Corps, AAA 3rd Bn / 1st Regiment of Foot Guards
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| Author: | SLudwig [ Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:02 pm ] |
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Sure he did. A lot of his general interests and the ideas of the revolution were implemented in the coming century. Also with his defeat came the attempt to set back the clock. Many regular officers and soldiers saw what his ideas could do and took them back to their countries and were treated different ways when trying to enact them. The failure of the old Empires to realize his impact led to their own downfall. The Imperial Sunset book I am reading touches on this throughout, I don't have it on me but may put forth some ideas he wrote when I have time. <center>-------------------------------------------------------- 
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| Author: | clifton seeney [ Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:05 am ] |
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He made one of the worlds greatest land deals! Or was it ? Col de Art 6/3 II Corps AN Marbot CS |
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| Author: | WillieD13 [ Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:05 am ] |
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Considering more recent French Military history, such as the Franco-Prussian War, WWI & WWII, Dien Bien Phu, it gives the French military something to hang their laurels on. Ensign William Davis 23rd (Royal Welsh) Fusiliers 
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| Author: | Ivan A.P. [ Sat Oct 20, 2007 9:45 am ] |
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by WillieD13</i> <br />Considering more recent French Military history, such as the Franco-Prussian War, WWI & WWII, Dien Bien Phu, it gives the French military something to hang their laurels on. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote"> [:D][:D][:D][:D] <center> 
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| Author: | clifton seeney [ Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:46 pm ] |
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Oui, the French military did go down hill after him but the German war machine which was built on him did great till WWI and fell apart after WWII. So are we to say that the US is headed the same way? What Great power can say that they added more to Glory then the fine garcons of 1790 to 1815 did I say Vie L’ France Vie’ Napoleon God of War! Col de Art 6/3 II Corps AN Marbot CS |
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| Author: | David Guegan [ Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:26 am ] |
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by WillieD13</i> <br />Considering more recent French Military history, such as the Franco-Prussian War, WWI & WWII, Dien Bien Phu, it gives the French military something to hang their laurels on. Ensign William Davis 23rd (Royal Welsh) Fusiliers
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote"> WWI : I didn't know it was a French defeat [;)] The history of France is very often an history of wars between themselves or against the neighbors (Spain, Italy, Switzerland, Germany, Austria, Great-Britain, Russia, etc.) It didn't start with Napoleon and it didn't stop with him. <font color="green"> <b>Général de Division David Guégan Comte de Toulon, Duc de Nimes</b> Co 11eme division III Corps, AdN Co Division d'Infanterie de la Jeune Garde, Garde Impériale 
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| Author: | etrapanob [ Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:04 am ] |
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He gave us "Chicken Marengo" excellent dish |
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