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A Poll of sorts - BG vs HPS
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Author:  WillieD13 [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:09 am ]
Post subject:  A Poll of sorts - BG vs HPS
First off, let me state that I realize the HPS titles are newer and more detailed, and perhaps this has a lot to do with my problem, that of finding opponents for the BG titles. For example, two weeks ago I posted an opponents wanted notice for a BG:PTW game, and got 0 responses. Now I will concede that it was a request for a ficticious "What If" scenario of my design, and perhaps that is the problem rather than the game engine, but I thought that before I continue posting requests for opponents on this sort of scenario, I would make this query.

How many of you still use BGW, and/or BG:NIR, and/or BG:PTW?
Those who do use BG, do you oppose DYO scenarios?


Ensign William Davis
23rd (Royal Welsh) Fusiliers
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Author:  Ernie Sands [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:53 am ]
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Yes.

No.

I keep a maximum of 2-3 Nappy games going on. I play either of the series, BG or HPS.

I am not against playing any scenario.

<b><font color="gold">Ernie Sands
General, 1ère Brigade, 19ème Division, VI Corps, L'Armee du Rhin
President, Colonial Campaign Club
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Author:  buffpilot [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:19 am ]
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Ensign Davis,

My answer: Yes and No

Now a large section of the club has migrated to the HPS titles. BUt I'm still, I think, the #1 trainer at the French Ecole for the BG games. If you can wait a month I'll have another fresh Lt for you to work on. He has no HPS titles. I also just graduated a Lt AuCoin who also plays the BG titles.



Marechal Doug Fuller
Duc de Montmorail et Comte de Hainaut
2e' Grenadiers a' Pied de la Vielle Garde
I Corp Commander
AdN
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Author:  Sir Muddy [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:38 am ]
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HPS only

FM Sir 'Muddy' Jones, KG
2nd Life Guards, Household Cavalry
Author:  Andy Moss [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:23 am ]
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Yes. I have several games ongoing using the old BG system. Some old stalwarts like Barrett refuse to evolve with the times.

No objection to DIY scenarios depending on how much they have been considered during design. I've seen some truly dreadful designs.

Probably most allied players remember the original Twin Battles scenario from PTW and what a romp that was usually for the French.

Generaal
2de Brigade
2de Nederlandsche Div
I Corps
Anglo Allied Army
Author:  Richard Hamilton [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:14 am ]
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Nope, don't play the BG games.

But yes, playing custom stuff is fine...and glad to see people getting into the editors, even if it is with the older games!

Maréchal Hamilton,
Duc de Barbancon
21st Division
VII Corps, ADR

1er Regiment Garde
Fusiler-Grenadiers

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Author:  socrates [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:37 am ]
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Yes, I play BG games as well as HPS. Each has its own merits.
I generally do not play DYO scenarios. I could be wrong but most are not well thought out. I might be agreable as part of a playtest effort.

Kapitan Paul Siragusa
Narvskiy Polk
12 Pekhotnaya Div.
7 Perkhotnyi Korpus
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Author:  Lanero [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:11 am ]
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Greetings,

Not only do I still play the BG titles, I still prefer them to the HPS (I'm a sucker for graphics and always play in 3d)

As for DOY mods, I am willing to play them if they are debugged. I don't mind playtesting but I prefer to know what I am getting into.

I would be happy to play a short/medium BG scenario if you are looking for an opponent



Capitaine C. Marc Lanero
4ème de Ligne
7ème Division
II Corps
Armée du Nord
"Volontaires de la Nouvelle-France"
Author:  Bill Peters [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:59 am ]
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I would play the NIR game if the engine had single phase capability.

Thus:

No, I dont play BG anymore but miss the lovely map graphics. The units are about the same for me as that part of the game didnt matter as much. But the NIR map! Ah, muy bien!

and

Yes, I love DYO scenarios. I tend to favor them over the stock scenarios. As many of the members know I run a close second to Al Amos for variant scenarios.

Colonel Bill Peters
Armee du Rhin - V Corps, Cavalerie du V Corps, 20ème légère Brigade de Cavalerie, 13ème Hussar Regiment
HPS Napoleonic Scenario Designer (Eckmuhl, Wagram, Jena-Auerstaedt and ... more to come)

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Author:  Gary McClellan [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:02 am ]
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HPS only at this point.

I prefer stock scenarios to DYO's, though I will play either.

Feldmarschall Freiherr Gary McClellan
Generalissimus Imperial Austrian Army
Portner Grenadier Bn
Allied Coalition C-in-C
Author:  dean beecham [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:27 am ]
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Just the HPS ones for me.

. Made up scn can be fun. as long as they have been tested well. .

Great to still see guys playing BG games. I have never played one by email. but i would find it to slow.

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La Commandeur, II Corps
ADN

Prince d` Istria et Comte d` Arles La Jeune Garde

"Toujours féroce,jamais étourdi"
Author:  Theron Lambert [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:23 am ]
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I still have and play both.

Marechal Theron Lambert
Grande Duc de Montereau et Duc d'Angers
Cavalerie du VI Corps
Armee du Rhin
Commandant Grenadiers a Pied "les Grognards"
Author:  clifton seeney [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:38 pm ]
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Monsieur Bonjou, I like HP my reason is simple one art hit on a enemy 20or less depends on the range for +20. Next game size! Next I was with them Bg from Baltimore to Rockville long history they would never evolve past what they are now. Bill has made a big differences in cyber game play.Next has to be no more 32bet ease of installation most I go on but I do play them and always lose which is the main reason!

Col de Art 6/3 II Corps AN Marbot CS
Author:  Jeff Bardon [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:59 pm ]
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Primarily, HPS but every once in a while I will play a BG title.

I have PTW installed on the newer PC (Twin battles unleashed is lots of fun), but have not done so with NIR or BGW. As for custom scenarios, I would play them, but I like to review them first and tend to avoid custom OOB or PDT variants.

Cheers.



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Maréchal Jeff Bardon
1ere Division de Cavalerie Legere
I Corps, AdN
Author:  Yann Lamezec [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:51 pm ]
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There is an increase of interest for the Bg's since Matrix games edit them again. As Doug pointed out we have at least one young lieutenant who have only the BG's game. I know at least two french officers who prefer the BGs.
So don't worry, you will find somebody soon [:D] If no, please tell me and I will give you a first list of french who play BG.

Best regards

Marechal Lamezec
Prince et Comte de Davout
French CIC
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