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| Author: | Colin Knox [ Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:42 am ] |
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For sale one low quality Prussian sausage eaten while in transit to Waterloo and deposited on the field at the sight of the Old Guard. Interested buyers should contact General Ludwig last seen leading the Prussian landwher in Rout from the Plancenoit. General de Brigade Knox Baron de l'Empire 2e Regiment Gardes d'Honneur (the regaled pheasants) La Jeune Garde CO. 1er Brigade, III Division Cavalerie Legere, III Corps Armee du Nord http://www.aspire.co.nz/colinknoxnwc.htm 
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| Author: | Jim Pfleck [ Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:05 pm ] |
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Colin, was this sausage episode before or after the Guard ran away? Feldmarschall Jim 'Prinz' Pfluecke Commander, Austrian Cavalry Reserve 3 Graf O'Reilly Chevauxleger Rgt Hahn Grenadier Bn |
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| Author: | Colin Knox [ Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:47 pm ] |
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[:D][:D][:D] Jim why that's a myth perpetuated by British historians. The guard mearly heard about a new brothel at Quatre Bras and briefly retired to visit it. General de Brigade Knox Baron de l'Empire 2e Regiment Gardes d'Honneur (the regaled pheasants) La Jeune Garde CO. 1er Brigade, III Division Cavalerie Legere, III Corps Armee du Nord http://www.aspire.co.nz/colinknoxnwc.htm
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| Author: | clifton seeney [ Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:46 pm ] |
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Monsieur I see nothing but black flaggs on the ground as the guard moves forward oui! Col de Art 6/3 II Corps AN Marbot CS |
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| Author: | SLudwig [ Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:06 am ] |
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<font size="6">La Garde Recule!!</font id="size6"> <center>-------------------------------------------------------- 
General der Infanterie Scott Prinz "Vorwärts" Ludwig von Allenstein-Dennewitz (Old Windy) (Windbagfrankfurter) (The Mad Prussian) (Herr Windbagenführer) Generalquartiermeister der Preußischen Armee Kommandeur Garde-Grenadier-Korps Königlich Preußische Armee am Niederrhein Webmaster & Club Cabinet - Public Relations Officer Vorwärts Meine Kinder, Vorwärts!! [url="http://www.prussianarmy.com/"]Königliche Preußische Armee[/url] [url="http://www.networkforgood.org"]Network for Good[/url] [url="http://napoleonicwargaming.com"]Napoleonic Wargaming - INWC[/url]</center> |
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| Author: | Yann Lamezec [ Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:23 am ] |
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<font size="6">In your dream</font id="size6"> Marechal Lamezec Prince et Comte de Davout French CIC |
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| Author: | John Corbin [ Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:49 am ] |
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by SLudwig</i> <br /><font size="6">La Garde Recule!!</font id="size6"> <center>--------------------------------------------------------
General der Infanterie Scott Prinz "Vorwärts" Ludwig von Allenstein-Dennewitz (Old Windy) (Windbagfrankfurter) (The Mad Prussian) (Herr Windbagenführer) Generalquartiermeister der Preußischen Armee Kommandeur Garde-Grenadier-Korps Königlich Preußische Armee am Niederrhein Webmaster & Club Cabinet - Public Relations Officer Vorwärts Meine Kinder, Vorwärts!! [url="http://www.prussianarmy.com/"]Königliche Preußische Armee[/url] [url="http://www.networkforgood.org"]Network for Good[/url] [url="http://napoleonicwargaming.com"]Napoleonic Wargaming - INWC[/url]</center> <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote"> Soon as I get the file from you Scott, I'll show you what the Guard can do <center> </center> <center> [img]</center> <center>Monsieur le Marechal Baron John Corbin Commanding L'Armee du Rhin Grande Duc de Piave et Comte de Beauvais Commanding the Division de Cavalerie de la Moyenne Garde NWC President</center> |
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| Author: | Colin Knox [ Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:34 am ] |
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I think what John and Yann are saying is Le Garde Ridicule 'zees silly Prussians in their uncouth uniforms'. (who remembers the Frenchmen in the castle in monty pythons). 'We F..t in your general direction' [:D] Salute! General de Brigade Knox Baron de l'Empire 2e Regiment Gardes d'Honneur (the regaled pheasants) La Jeune Garde CO. 1er Brigade, III Division Cavalerie Legere, III Corps Armee du Nord http://www.aspire.co.nz/colinknoxnwc.htm
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| Author: | Ed Blackburn [ Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:45 am ] |
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Hmmm, Colin one must ask how it was that the Prussians were in postion to observe the Old Guard and thusly deposit said alledged used suasage on the ground. Did not three battalions of the OG advance with the MG against the thin red line only be driven back when our heroic Duke uttered those famous words "Now Maitlaned, now's your time". (Or something like that). SOOOOOOOOO, it must have been these fleeing members of the OG that caused a few new and untrained troopers of our valiant allies to perhaps slighty soil themselves as it were. Only the be rallied by Herr Blucher and led on to glorious victory and disgrace of the little Corsican ogre. <font color="red"><font size="1">steps down from his pedastool and walks away</font id="size1"></font id="red">[:o)][:X] Major General Ed Blackburn Commanding Second Div, II Corps, AAA 3rd Bn / 1st Regiment of Foot Guards 
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| Author: | D.S. Walter [ Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:49 am ] |
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Actually two battalions of the Old Guard were among the defenders of Placenoit, from which they were ejected by Prussian IV Corps, which consisted mainly of Landwehr. So a Landwehr / Old Guard encounter did indeed take place, and the Old Guard lost (being badly outnumbered). <center> [url="http://home.arcor.de/dierk_walter/NWC/2nd_Dragoons.htm"]  [/url]
Maj. Gen. D.S. "Green Horse" Walter ~ 2nd Dragoons (Royal Scots Greys) ~ 2nd (Union) Brigade, Anglo-Allied Cavalry Corps ---------- ~ 3rd (Prince of Wales's) Dragoon Guards ~ [url="http://www.geocities.com/militaireacademie/"] [/url]
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| Author: | Ed Blackburn [ Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:13 am ] |
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by D.S. Walter</i> <br />Actually two battalions of the Old Guard were among the defenders of Placenoit, from which they were ejected by Prussian IV Corps, which consisted mainly of Landwehr. So a Landwehr / Old Guard encounter did indeed take place, and the Old Guard lost (being badly outnumbered). <center> [url="http://home.arcor.de/dierk_walter/NWC/2nd_Dragoons.htm"] [/url]
Maj. Gen. D.S. "Green Horse" Walter ~ 2nd Dragoons (Royal Scots Greys) ~ 2nd (Union) Brigade, Anglo-Allied Cavalry Corps ---------- ~ 3rd (Prince of Wales's) Dragoon Guards ~ [url="http://www.geocities.com/militaireacademie/"] [/url]
</center> <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote"> I guess I have no future as a history teacher Dierk.[:(] Major General Ed Blackburn Commanding Second Div, II Corps, AAA 3rd Bn / 1st Regiment of Foot Guards
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| Author: | Colin Knox [ Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:06 am ] |
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Indeed at one point Morand led forward two battalions of the Old Guard in a counter attack to relieve the young guard in Plancenoit who were beginning to fall back in disorder. Ironically Waterloo is known for the defeat of the guard but this brief attack by 2 btns put to rout a quantity of Prussians much higher than themselves (some say divisional sized) and was one of the most famous attacks by the old guard in the whole Napoleonic wars. To quote Allesandro Barbero (abdg) 'The Prussians in front of them, a force many times there number were driven back in disorder and then in a catastrophic rout.' 'At 7.30 in the evening Bluchers offensive was back to the starting point yet again' By the way Ed enjoyed your post though! Salute! General de Brigade Knox Baron de l'Empire 2e Regiment Gardes d'Honneur (the regaled pheasants) La Jeune Garde CO. 1er Brigade, III Division Cavalerie Legere, III Corps Armee du Nord http://www.aspire.co.nz/colinknoxnwc.htm
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| Author: | clifton seeney [ Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:17 pm ] |
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In no way was the Old guard of 1815 the same Guard as there was in 1807 or 1809 nor 1812. Most didn't have the bearskin bonnets nor any of what Hollywood or that Hollywood in Italy would have you belive.As for the Young Guard it was a promotion for some of the line units a reware for what they did in 1813.We are beaten but never defeated! Nor were they the same class of 1814! Col de Art 6/3 II Corps AN Marbot CS |
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| Author: | Michael Ellwood [ Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:57 am ] |
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What Colin says is well documented in quite a few sources. Only two battalions did counter attack and apparently with the bayonet only, they never fired a shot! The effect was the village was retaken, the Prussian advance was stalled for a while and the young guard defenders who had been holding out for some time and were totally outnumbered returned and re-occupied the village. Fighting was still going on in and around Plancenoit right to the end. The Guard did not retreat or rout. The guard was stopped, it retired (admittedly in some disorder from the british firepower). But then recovered and stood firm to cover the retreat of the rest of the army, dying were they stood. Elite and unconquered even in defeat. Hail the Glorious Guard! Lt Col Mike Ellwood Konig Regt 1 Bde, 22Div VII Saxon Corps, ADR |
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| Author: | Colin Knox [ Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:51 pm ] |
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Perfectly put Mike! Long live the Veille Garde! Your were defeated but never vanquished General de Brigade Knox Baron de l'Empire 2e Regiment Gardes d'Honneur (the regaled pheasants) La Jeune Garde CO. 1er Brigade, III Division Cavalerie Legere, III Corps Armee du Nord http://www.aspire.co.nz/colinknoxnwc.htm
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