American Civil War Game Club (ACWGC)

Anyone seen a limbered gunboat? (52,57) in the historical Chickasaw Bayou scenario of HPS Vicksburg. It seems it can't fire; nor can it change formation; what *can* it do?

(Posted this originally in the QM Depot, but no Federal officers seemed to know an answer. Maybe a Reb can solve this mystery for me?)

Gen. Walter, USA
<i>The Blue Blitz</i>
3/2/VIII AoS

That's right in John's game engines a boat is merely an artillery unit that has movement in water, it acts as though it is on a bridge. Therefore, it cannot change formation.

If a boat ever routs and then rallies it rallies in limbered formation and cannot ever unlimber. Game over for that boat. Treat it as though it struck its colors.

If the boat starts a scenario limbered, then that's a scenario design boo-boo and needs to be corrected at that level. Not sure how you could do that, but anything is possible, I suppose.

MajGen Al 'Ambushed' Amos
3rd "Amos' Ambushers" Bde, Cavalry Division, XX Corps, AoC
The Union Forever! Huzzah!

Hi,

What I tried, and it worked, is going to the scenario editor, removing the Louisville, and replacing it on the river. It was "unlimbered". How it got "limbered" in the first place is beyond me, as apparently the change formation command doesn't work on boats. Probably ought to check with the scenario designer though. Maybe there was a historical reason the Louisville was "buttoned up".

MG Mike Mihalik
1/III/AoMiss/CSA

I've never seen a gunboat rout.

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<br />That is something that Rich W. and Drew. W. should have John change for that unit type. If they rally they should be able to come back for more.

Col. Bill Peters, The Boise Rifles, II Corps Artillery, AoA
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Lt. Col. Richard Walker
I Corps
Army of the Mississippi
2nd Brigade, 3rd Division
"Defenders of Tennessee"

Rich,

I've been able to get boats to rout in the EAW engine. I'm guessing it is possible to do the same in the ACW engine.

MajGen Al 'Ambushed' Amos
3rd "Amos' Ambushers" Bde, Cavalry Division, XX Corps, AoC
The Union Forever! Huzzah!

In Shiloh, I designed several naval battles with many gunboats firing at eachother. Never did they rout.

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<br />Rich,

I've been able to get boats to rout in the EAW engine. I'm guessing it is possible to do the same in the ACW engine.

MajGen Al 'Ambushed' Amos
3rd "Amos' Ambushers" Bde, Cavalry Division, XX Corps, AoC
The Union Forever! Huzzah!

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Lt. Col. Richard Walker
I Corps
Army of the Mississippi
2nd Brigade, 3rd Division
"Defenders of Tennessee"

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I've been able to get boats to rout in the EAW engine. I'm guessing it is possible to do the same in the ACW engine.
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I have seen ships rout too. Where you have many, like at Louisbourg, it happens a lot.

Gen. Walter, USA
<i>The Blue Blitz</i>
3/2/VIII AoS

I have no doubt that they rout in an EAW game, but good luck trying to get them to rout in the ACW. It won't happen.

Lt. Col. Richard Walker
I Corps
Army of the Mississippi
2nd Brigade, 3rd Division
"Defenders of Tennessee"