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 Post subject: Strategic Phase Leader Casualty
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:35 pm 
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This is a new one. I am playing the Shiloh Campaign. At the Battle of Frankfort I did not lose any leaders. A PBEM Termination bid is placed and accepted. I start the Battle of Shiloh. The best brigade commander I have, Patrick Cleburne, is now gone and his brigade commanded by Col Anonymous! I have never seen this happen before. anybody have any ideas?


LTG L. G. Bertolino
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:18 pm 
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Theoretically it would be possible that your opponent still played his turn before accepting your bid, so Cleburne could have been killed or wounded in that turn and you would never know because you get no replay. That's one weakness of the campaign format; between submitting and accepting a bid there is a black hole where you can do everything without the opponent ever knowing. That's why when submitting a bid I do so at the start of my turn without moving any units, and ask my opponent to reciprocate.

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I'm Gen Bertolino's opponent in this campaign, and had just noticed Col. Anonymous but had assumed Cleburne had been promoted. I can definitely confirm that Cleburne was not a casualty so far (I'm from the same county as him so I always have an extra interest in him!)
Also it was I who placed the previous termination bid and Gen Bertolino accepted.
I must go check all my leaders later to see if I have any MIA.............

Lt. Gen Niall Murphy
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Gentlemen,
my esteemed opponet had initiated the PBEM bid termination. Additionally, our armies had disengage and neither Cleburne, nor his Corps Commander Hardee, were even visible to the enemy, much less in the line of fire.
I checked the Shiloh battle and Hardee is there, just poor Cleburne is missing. Maybe he got lost on the way back from Kentucky!


LTG L. G. Bertolino
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Bill Peters</i>
Another point - what if the other guy doesnt accept the bid Dierk? Then can he go and fire and move his units?
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No--he returns the file to me without doing anything and then I do my move. We lose one turn.

But then none of my opponents ever refused to accept a bid.

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Gentlemen . . .

As we are all reasonably aware . . .

Patrick Cleburne was killed leading a charge accross open ground, before the defenses of Frankfort.

In the situation described by LTG. Bertilino, he has just completed a Battle at Frankfort and is entering the engagement at Shiloh.

I wonder . . . could there be a confusion in the OOB OR has the Program/Computer/Designer got the Facts mixed up?

Shiloh (A.S. Johnson/Beauregard) and Frankfort(Hood)were 2 years or so apart . . . . p'raps an error in the construction of the OOB for the Campaign be the cause of the Bold Irishman's abscence???[?]

Pat. [:D]

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