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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:53 am 
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Gentlemen,

Have been playing a Ozark Campaign 1st Battle of 1862 campaign. I have noticed that the Dead Yank Cavalry is worth more points than the Dead Reb Cavalry. It is not related to the quality of the units as the Rebs were B grade and the Yanks were E grade. I had always known that cavalry was worth more points then infantry. Before this I had assumed that both the Yank and Reb troopers were worth the same number of victory points. In another Campaign, Wilson's Creek, the Reb Artillery was worth more points than the Yank Artillery. Is this an attempt by the designer to balance the scenario? How do you know what value to placed on your losses verses the enemy losses before they are incurred? Is this phenomina the same for other HPS Titles? Thanks.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:52 am 
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These values can be set in the design of any scenario in any of the games. That said, I don't recall any of the others that use that. (At least in ACW... I'm playing a game of Crete in Salerno '43 where the Germans are worth far more than my Brits and Greeks)

I've always guessed that it was meant to represent "Ease of Replacement" in Ozark. The Union troops lose a cannon, they can order another from St. Louis fairly quickly. On the other hand, every gun the CSA had was precious. Likewise, the Rebs were buried in Cav, while the Union had to work hard to put it together. Thus, the loss of those units has an extra "cost"


ETA: To check this, open the scenario in question in the Scenario Editor, and you can call up the page that sets values for losses.

Brig. General Gary McClellan
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It's used in 1812, I noticed. In a Detroit game, I have killed 400 rebels with barely over 100 own casualties, yet the score is about the same. Rebel manpower is cheap, it seems! [:0]

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:23 am 
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by D.S. Walter</i>
<br />It's used in 1812, I noticed. In a Detroit game, I have killed 400 rebels with barely over 100 own casualties, yet the score is about the same. Rebel manpower is cheap, it seems! [:0]

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That's just because it easier to get a reb who's willing to fight. [:D][;)]

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