Napoleonic Wargame Club (NWC)

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<br />Dierk - we have one new guy that obviously doesnt know me very well. Yes, I am listening and these have been suggested in the past.
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Exactly Bill, Unfortunately I haven’t been here for a long time. Sorry for being pushy.

“sufficiently large number of members supports it.â€

Yes to all three!

Colonel Rick Motko
1er Bataillon, 33° Régiment d'Infanterie de Ligne
2eme Brigade, 11eme division
IIIe corps, Armée du Nord


Vive l'Empereur!

I also agree on all 3
Add my name to your list Dierk


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GFM - Phillip Chimara
Russian Army

Count me in, Dierk!

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<center><b>Eyo Imperatorskogo Velichestva Leib-Kirassirskogo polku
General-Mayor Anton Valeryevich Kosyanenko
commander of Little Russian grenadiers regiment</b></center>

Add me to the list

Generalissimo
Opolchenie Korpus
Russian Army

Dierk,

I'll go along with this, but I do have a question with regard to regaining strength -- would this apply just to "casualties" from straggling or are you also talking combat losses? If you are talking stragglers rejoining the unit then perhaps it should apply to units who are "stationary", rather than "resting". A straggler can catch up to a unit that is in line trading volleys just as well as he can catch up with the bivouaced unit. Another point is that to truly model straggling the <i>rate</i> would change over time -- in other words, the first hour or two straggling would be close to non existent, but by the 3rd or 4th continuous hour it would be higher and if a player pushes on hour after hour after hour then the staggler rate would become so extreme such that the unit would have to be rested. If you include fatigue from movement, then this could be tied to the straggler rate, ie. 0 movement fatigue has a lower straggler rate (maybe even 0), whereas unit with max fatigue might lose several percent. Otherwise it might be too hard to model, but I would have a bit of a problem with losing the same number of stragglers in hour 1 as hour 10 of a forced march.

General Theron Lambert
Comte d'Angers et Duc de Montereau
3rd Brigade, 3rd Division
VI Corps
Armee du Rhin
Commandant de la Division de Cavalerie de la Moyenne Garde

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Theron Lambert</i>
I'll go along with this, but I do have a question with regard to regaining strength -- would this apply just to "casualties" from straggling or are you also talking combat losses? If you are talking stragglers rejoining the unit then perhaps it should apply to units who are "stationary", rather than "resting". A straggler can catch up to a unit that is in line trading volleys just as well as he can catch up with the bivouaced unit. Another point is that to truly model straggling the <i>rate</i> would change over time -- in other words, the first hour or two straggling would be close to non existent, but by the 3rd or 4th continuous hour it would be higher and if a player pushes on hour after hour after hour then the staggler rate would become so extreme such that the unit would have to be rested. If you include fatigue from movement, then this could be tied to the straggler rate, ie. 0 movement fatigue has a lower straggler rate (maybe even 0), whereas unit with max fatigue might lose several percent. Otherwise it might be too hard to model, but I would have a bit of a problem with losing the same number of stragglers in hour 1 as hour 10 of a forced march.
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I think these are valid points, but in order to get it at all, in my experience, we will have to accept a good deal of abstraction. Just as all combat losses are lumped together in a single figure, I think it will be better to have units lose and regain strength at all, even if the model is rather crude.

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D.S. "Green Horse" Walter, Maréchal d'Empire
Duc des Pyramides, Comte de Normandie
Commandant la [url="http://home.arcor.de/dierk_Walter/NWC/3_VI_AdR_Home.htm"]3e Division Bavaroise[/url], L'Armée du Rhin
Commandant [url="http://home.arcor.de/dierk_Walter/NWC/EdM_start.htm"]L'Ecole de Mars[/url], L'Armée du Rhin
Commandant la Brigade de Grenadiers de la Moyenne Garde
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Go ahead and add my name. I'm all for increasing realism in these games...




General der Kavallerie Philip Graf Roubaud
Kommandant
Vienna Militärakademie
Imperial Armee of Austria

Count me in. I'm tired of Dierk chasing me around the maps and never getting tired.

Colonel Phil Driscoll
12e Legere of the 7th Division
II Corps
ADN

Vive L'Empereur!

Would be a good idea. I support it too.[:)]

<font color="gold">Feldmarshall
Stefan Ritter von Reuter
Großfürst von Wahlstadt
CoA Armee des Niederrhein</font id="gold">

I'm in.

Brigadier General Ed Blackburn
Commanding 6th Div, II Corps, AAA
3rd Bn / 1st Regiment of Foot Guards

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<br />Count me in. I'm tired of Dierk chasing me around the maps and never getting tired.
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Hey! We're on the same side now. [:0]

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D.S. "Green Horse" Walter, Maréchal d'Empire
Duc des Pyramides, Comte de Normandie
Commandant la [url="http://home.arcor.de/dierk_Walter/NWC/3_VI_AdR_Home.htm"]3e Division Bavaroise[/url], L'Armée du Rhin
Commandant [url="http://home.arcor.de/dierk_Walter/NWC/EdM_start.htm"]L'Ecole de Mars[/url], L'Armée du Rhin
Commandant la Brigade de Grenadiers de la Moyenne Garde
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Dierk, I support the petition also.

<font color="gold">Général de Brigade Baron Greg Morgan, Comte de Gironde
3ème Division Cavalerie Légerè
IIIème Corps
l' Armée du Nord
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Count me in too

<center>Maréchal T. Nowacki
<b>V KORPUS ARMII RENU</b>

Comte de Liege
Duc de la Moskova

Chasseurs a Cheval de la Vieille Garde</center>

Count in me also

Regards

General de Division Lamezec
Comte de Davout
CO 2ème division de cavalerie légère
ADN2