Michael Barycki wrote:
Quaama wrote:
Positions on Cabinet are not there for such members to award themselves fancy titles and to collect gongs for themselves and their friends. The positions are there for the good governance of the Club. The Cabinet exists to serve the members; not the obverse.
What did saying this constructively achieve? Did it make you feel better? This is as unhelpful as me replying to your following post that "division commanders should be active and communicating with their brigade commanders, not just in the role to display a fancy title and collect gongs for themselves. They shouldn't need the DoR to know the email addresses of the handful of people that they command."
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Lt Gen Michael E. F. Barycki[/quote]
Walt Dortch wrote:
General Swanson.
I second Michael's question as to whether you feel better after you post arrogant, destructive and spectacularly presumptuous, righteous, and insultingly inaccurate statements about the motivation and dedication of the Club Cabinet.
The fact is that it has been long recognized that key systems of the Club need to have back up plans to deal with situations such as face now with the DOR. General Sands has been contacted numerous times over the last several years with requests that he provide several trusted members with information regarding the location of the DOR data and the means to access that data in the event he was unable to do so. He quietly and persistently refused. It is that simple. As Thomas noted, we are presently turning over every stone to determine just what may have happened to Ernie.
In the meantime, your unsolicited and obnoxious commentary serves no useful purpose for anyone other than perhaps yourself.
Most sincerely,
"What did saying this constructively achieve?"A, possibly forlorn, hope that it may spur them into action.
"Did it make you feel better?"No, that wasn't the point of it - see above answer.
"The fact is that it has been long recognized that key systems of the Club need to have back up plans to deal with situations such as face now with the DOR."If that is a fact then, as I asked in my first post: What is that plan?
Earlier posts seemed to indicate that the only 'plan' was to try and contact the missing Member. Surely, there should have been more of a plan to:
1. Fix the DoR;
2. Replace it with something else; and/or
3. In the interim between #1, #2 implement temporary measures such as those suggested in my second post.
Additionally, the DoR data should have been regularly saved offline. It would appear that was not done so the horse has bolted there, so probably best to concentrate on 1, 2 and 3,
It's been about three weeks now. The longer that no action is taken the more confused the situation will become.
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