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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:39 pm 
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Hello,

In the latest patch to Eckmuhl and Austerlitz the Font is driving me potty. Has anyone noticed the new shading on the units?

I already wear glasses and this Font is really hard on my eyes.

All games are fine except Austerlitz and Eckmuhl with latest patch.

Anyone know of a fix?

<b><font color="gold">Gén. de Div. </b></font id="gold">Paul Wakeman [url="http://www.acwgc.org/acwgc_members/paw/wakeman-AdR.htm"](OBD)[/url]<b>
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:04 pm 
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Funny enough the newer font is easier to view. It has an edge on it that sets it off from the older style.

What you need to do is send this comment to Rich Hamilton at the HPS Support email.

I did not know that the unit box got changed for each nation (shading) nor that the font is different.

I just note that the font now has an "edge" to it and its actually easier to read for me.

Like John Tiller has said before - graphics are highly subjective.

I would ask Rich this: what files from the older version can I use to get the older view back. I doubt that the font issue can be reverted but the unitbox.bmp file in the Info folder found in the main folder can be substituted for the older one off of your CD.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:01 pm 
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Bill,

Maybe we are not talking about the same thing, but it looks like I am doing one of those color blind tests.

I am talking about the wording only in each unit box:
(Wagram, Waterloo, NRC, Jena-Auerstadt)
525 Men
Strength 100%
Quality A
Movement 22
Fatigue 0
<font color="yellow">Can Deploy</font id="yellow">

(Austerlitz, Eckmuhl w/ latest patch)
<i><font color="blue">525 Men
Strength 100%
Quality A
Movement 22
Fatigue 0</font id="blue">
<font color="yellow">Can Deploy</font id="yellow"></i>

The Blue in my signature has that effect, so I made the above blue.
It definitely isn't easier to read for me, but it is making me strain my eyes.

I also have the latest video card with digital display
in 1280 x 1024. Maybe it looks good on old monitors...

<b><font color="gold">Gén. de Div. </b></font id="gold">Paul Wakeman [url="http://www.acwgc.org/acwgc_members/paw/wakeman-AdR.htm"](OBD)[/url]<b>
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:07 pm 
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Bill,

It would be nice if the option was added in the <b>View</b> Options on top
like the unit box.

We all have different eyesight and monitors, so this would be flexible to cater for those who don't like white.

<b><font color="gold">Gén. de Div. </b></font id="gold">Paul Wakeman [url="http://www.acwgc.org/acwgc_members/paw/wakeman-AdR.htm"](OBD)[/url]<b>
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:06 am 
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Paul - this will not happen. I think that there are folks out there that can make alternate art packs that can accommodate this.

We will never satisfy all of our customers in these areas. Everybody is a little different. We do the best we can to make the game appear as visible as possible. And many of us have put out alternate art packs to pretty much make up for any lack of visual issues that occur.

Just copy the unitbox.bmp file from your CD to your Info folder and that should take care of it. Or you can use one from another game that is still using the older viewing style.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:53 pm 
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Bill,

Thanks, spoke to Rich, nothing will change it back. Seems it is coded.

I guess tough luck. I just have to not look at my units so much.

I am a little surprised that it wasn't made into a view button where it could be switched between the two as it is just a font, it is not like it is graphics, which I wasn't clear when I started thread.

The graphics (unit pics) in the Napoleon games has been pretty good, the Austerlitz is a little different flavor, but very nice. After all these years, I didn't expect a simple font to change, and for it to be so bad on my eyes.

I think I saw a thread on what's next, has it been determined yet?

Keep up the good work.

<b><font color="gold">Gén. de Div. </b></font id="gold">Paul Wakeman [url="http://www.acwgc.org/acwgc_members/paw/wakeman-AdR.htm"](OBD)[/url]<b>
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:51 am 
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The next game thread was a poll I took. It is not to be construed as anything official by HPS or John Tiller.

It was my own private poll and only may influence what I work on for future projects. And pretty much its what I expected too.

I really wanted to do that Napoleon in Louisiana game next but oh well ... [:D]

On the font issue: send me a screenshot of what you see on your system. It might have to do with your graphics card. On my system it looks improved. I can make out the letters much easier with a slight shading around the letters.

If the view of your screen based on the graphics card is the issue (meaning your view looks worse than mine) then I would suggest seeing if your resolution is different, etc.

Also: what are you using for a monitor/flat panel? I am extremely sensitive to those and have to find something that doesn't flicker or is grainy for resolution.

These could be why you are having problems.

Did you send any of this to Rich? Graphics card, resolution, refresh rate?

Here is what I run:

LG Flatron W2241T - 22 inch flat panel - 1680 x 1050 - 60 hz - 32 bit color depth.

Normally 60 hz is not enough. I usually see flicker but for some reason it works well with this flat panel.

Its a wide screen which I like. Allows me to see alot more in a webpage window.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:20 am 
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Bill Peters</i>
LG Flatron W2241T - 22 inch flat panel - 1680 x 1050 - 60 hz - 32 bit color depth.

Normally 60 hz is not enough. I usually see flicker but for some reason it works well with this flat panel.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

The Hertzes do not mean as much for LCD as they did for CRT monitors. CRT constantly repainted the screen, thus it was important to get that done fast. LCD's once lit, they don't flicker. The speed is only important when the picture changes fast (like in action movies).

The shadow for letters is good, HPS may also try to experiment with drawing it around the letters on all sides (for x-1 to x+1 and y-1 to y+1) instead of only one side (for x+1 and y+1).

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:13 pm 
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Dominik - thanks for the comments on the flat panels ... and your idea for the font should be forwarded to Rich Hamilton and John Tiller.

I may discuss this with John.

But first I need to see the view that Paul is seeing. It may be that his setup is insufficient to enjoy the new look. Frankly I see it just fine and man oh man I have poor vision due to painting too many Minifig, Essex, Dixon and Scruby figures!!! [8D]

I am sort of fired up to paint an army from the Field of Glory reference book, "Swords and Scimitars" - 15s are sort of affordable now and I would love to paint up a pair of Essex starter armies for both the Later Crusades and the Ayyubid Egyptians (Salladin). If only my eyes would hold out ... [:p]

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