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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:07 pm 
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In terms of historical debate Waterloo is hard to beat . But for my money my choice has to be Quartre Bras and Ligny which I tend to see as one or as many refer to them the "twin battles". I am not necessarily certain that if Constant Rebque doesn't chose to fight at Quarte Bras and Blucher at Ligny that there is a battle of Waterloo on ground of Wellingtons choosing.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:35 pm 
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Colin Knox wrote:
Any good books on Leipzig you Sausage crew can recommend? Not to dry so that my colourful Frenchness can absorb it.

re trivia Battle of Yarmouk


Correct response to the trivia question.

The ONLY book I can recommend on Leipzig is Nafziger's Napoelon at Leipzig. You can get it at http://www.militaryhistorypress.com/

I do not recommend Digby-Smith's book on the battle. Too many quotes and not enough substance.

Petre's book on the 1813 campaign covers the battle adequately.

The small Osprey Campaign series book is "ok" - again for such a huge battle they spend too much time on other battles like Dresden and so on.

It deserves a 2 volume set on it. Or ONE really good volume.

I talked with Scott Bowden but he has no plans on doing any book on the battle. His book on the campaign mainly dealt with the French army OB.

Like I have been saying - its a shame but no one really has written a good book on this battle. Its a shame. But you will see 15 more books on Waterloo by the time 2015 rolls around ...

"The Waterloo Cookbook - Favorite Dishes of the British Commanders and their ADCs"

"Waterloo Revised - Again"

"The Waterloo Encyclopedia"

"Belgian Waffles - Or How the Dutch-Belgian Troops Won the Famous Battle"

"Roll Call of Waterloo - Another Shot at an Accurate Order of Battle"

The list is endless ...

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The Battle of Eylau - Bill - the campaign of 1807 has to be your next project !!!! - I hanve to think it would be a high demand game

Riding high from its victories over the Prussians at Jena and Auerstedt in October 1806, Napoleon's Grande Armée pushed into Poland. Opposing the French were Russian forces led by General Count von Bennigsen. Seeing an opportunity to strike at the French, Bennigsen began moving against the isolated corps of Marshal Jean-Baptiste Bernadotte. Sensing a chance to cripple the Russians, Napoleon ordered Bernadotte to fall back while he moved with the main army to cut off the Russians.

Slowly drawing Bennigsen into his trap, Napoleon was foiled when a copy of his plan was captured by the Russians. Pursuing Bennigsen, the French army became spread over the countryside. On February 7 1807 , the Russians turned to make a stand near Eylau. Quickly trying to reconcentrate his army, Napoleon entered the coming battle badly outnumbered. Arriving at Eylau around 2:00 PM, the corps of Marshal Nicolas Jean de Dieu Soult and the cavalry of Marshal Joachim Murat began deploying and were quickly reinforced by the corps of Marshal Pierre Augereau and the Imperial Guard.

Entering the fight with 45,000 men to Bennigsen's 67,000, Napoleon was awaiting the arrival of Marshal Louis Nicolas Davout and Marshal Michel Ney with their corps. Late in the day on the 7th, French troops began pushing into Eylau, opening a bitter struggle for the village that lasted well into the night. Costing each side around 4,000 casualties

Fighting resumed after dawn on February 8, with a large-scale artillery duel as heavy snow storms swept across the battlefield. Awaiting the arrival of reinforcements, Napoleon ordered Soult's IV Corps to attack the Russian lines with the goal of fixing them in place. Moving forward, Soult was beaten back as Bennigsen ordered an attack on the French left as well as sendimg cavalry against the head of Davout's corps which was arriving on the right. With the battle turning in the Russians' favor, Napoleon ordered Augereau to attack the Russian left with his VII Corps to relieve pressure on the French right.

Augereau advanced his corp, supported by the division of General Louis Vincent Le Blond de Saint-Hilaire. As the VII Corps advanced it became lost in the blowing snow arriving at the center of the Russian instead of the left. Hit with fire from a 70-gun Russian battery, as well as the blinded French artillery, the VII Corps was badly decimated with Augereau falling wounded. Advancing correctly, Saint-Hilaire's outnumbered division had little impact on the Russian left.

Retreating back on Eylau with 3,000-4,000 survivors, the remnants of the VII Corps were soon attacked by Bennigsen's reserve infantry. Fighting a desperate battle, in which Napoleon was nearly captured, the center of the French line began to waver. Though reinforced by brigades from the Imperial Guard, Napoleon ordered Murat to charge forward with his cavalry to save the center. Riding out in one of the grandest charges of the war, Murat's men split into two wings with one turning to rescue Saint-Hilaire's men and the other charging into the Russians attacking Eylau.

Rejoining, Murat charged into the center of the Russian lines, destroying the batteries that had devastated the VII Corps. Retiring back to the French lines, Murat's horsemen had rescued the situation and allowed Davout's corps to deploy and join the battle. Though the Russian center was in shambles, Napoleon opted not to send the Imperial Guard forward as it was known that a 9,000-man Prussian force under General Anton Wilhelm von L'Estocq was in the area.

Instead, he advanced Davout's corp with assistance from Saint-Hilaire. As the afternoon wore on, they were able to push back the Russian left. Around 3:30, with the Russian line about to break, L'Estocq appeared and struck at Davout's exposed flank, forcing the French to fall back to their original positions. With the arrival of evening, Ney's corps marched onto the field around 7:00. Immediately deploying, they pressed an attack into the Russian right which lasted until 10:00. An hour later, Bennigsen ordered the army to quietly withdraw from the field. The exhausted French did not realize that the Russians had departed until around 3:00 AM on February 9.

A stalemate, the Battle of Eylau was the first major setback encountered by Napoleon and the Grande Armée. In two days fighting, the Russians and French each suffered around 15,000 casualties. The Battle of Eylau led to a continuation of the fighting which did not end until the Battle of Friedland in June. Decisively defeating the Russians, Napoleon's victory at Friedland effectively ended the War of the Fourth Coalition.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:09 pm 
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No, I have neither the materials nor the maps to do that game. And 1807 did not have a lot in English until a few years back when several books started coming out on the campaign so I never amassed much of a library on that one. I have just a couple of books on the campaign. Petre and perhaps one other. There is a book I would like to get but the author slips my mind. Was it James Arnold?

It was noted long ago by someone that we should have put that into the 1806 game. LOL

Sure, like we have all of the time in the world to package that much into one game.

All of the major campaigns are either in the works or are scheduled. About the only one (and its a minor one) that is iffy is the Egyptian campaign. I would like it for no other reason than we could then do the Russo-Turk campaigns as well as some Austrian-Turkish stuff. I checked on the number of icons needed and it is NOT too bad. Still its in the future and nothing I am currently working on.

Eylau-Friedland should be something you could look for from us in the future. Someone else is doing Peninsular Wars too. What am I working on? Hmm, just about everything not mentioned in the above ... :wink:

I have one title that I am packing in so much it's not even funny ...

The good news is that I found out that I could do quick fills of terrain and contours using a keystroke combination so maps go together about 1/3 the time that they used to. It was there all the time and I just learned about it this year. Go figure!

I am slow but I am the fastest in the slow class.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:45 pm 
Bill Peters wrote:
I am slow but I am the fastest in the slow class.


That puts me somewhere in the middle, bottom of the slow class. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

I agree that Eylau would be great fun to play. Sigh.......so many battles and surrounded by Frenchies without enough time to play them all. :roll: :roll: :roll:


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The Egyptian and Russo/Austrian-Turkish stuff would be very cool.... :mrgreen:

I always want to find someone to play the NIR Mods of it with me...

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