Napoleonic Wargame Club (NWC)

Gentlemen and Officers of All Armies

I propose a tournament in cemmomoration of ten years of NWC! We start planning it now. More details are forthcoming in the next NWC Newsletter to be published in July, so stay tuned. However, you can look at the proposed games and scenarios before we begin and offer your comments. Go to webpage:

http://nap.phxsim.com/downloads/

and install the "YTAT" group of games. This is a Talonsoft NIR "add on" based on six games released years ago by NiR Project, and all based on battles 1805-1806 between Russia, Prussia/Saxony, Austria, and France.

There are about a dozen proposed 'official' scenarios in the installed group of games. My favorites are the hypothetical ones, all based from historical forces and mapboards, and balanced, but kept to manageable sized meeting engagements of one corps for each side. To keep to the nature of the tournament feel, these are designed for maximum playability and balance. These are highly manuever type scenarios, with plenty of open field, and all combined arms. The hypothetical scenarios all are designed around a "capture the flag" mentality. Essentially, a major victory can only be gained by capturing the opponents line of communications which is a single hex on the rear edge of the mapboard. A minor victory can be had by gaining 100 VP more than the opponent while not giving up your own rear objective hex. The hypothetical scenarios are from 20 to 30 turns, to keep them short. Also, usually the Allies have a 5 to 15% numerical advantage to offset the higher quality of the French.

Here's the simplest way to install. All you need in a working installed directory of Talonsoft NIR. Do this:

1. Copy NIR directory to another directory
2. Rename the copy to YTAT
3. Go into the YTAT directory and delete all sub-directories.
4. Go to http://nap.phxsim.com/downloads/ and download the file named YTAT.zip into the YTAT directory and unzip, overwriting all files if asked.
5. Download the other files labeled ytat_XX.zip (where XX=bd, ck, ff, etc.).
6. Now recreate the sub-directories BD, CK, FF, GR, SR, and SU. These will be empty sub-directories. Move each downloaded ytat_bd.zip file to the BD subdirectory and unzip. Repeat for the other five.
7. Voila. Your installation is complete. In the YTAT directory, just double click on BG_START.EXE and the tournament games will begin ...

ALL FOR FREE!

More info to follow. Your suggestions and comments are welcome. We'll begin the tournament sometime soon, to be discussed ...

Regards


Col. Dirk Smith
1e Bg, 16 Dv, V Corps
Armee du Rhin

Sheesh, I may even get over to Europe (finally) and take in some of the battlefields sometime next year.

The anniversary is sometime in March/April. Kind of cold for a meeting then. Maybe sometime in June?

Bill Peters
Armee du Rhin - V Corps, 5ème Division, 20ème légère Brigade de Cavalerie, 13ème Hussar Regiment
HPS Napoleonic Scenario Designer (Eckmuhl, Wagram, Jena-Auerstaedt and ... more to come)

[url="http://www.fireandmelee.net"]Fire and Melee Wargame site[/url]

Good idea for a tourney to commemorate this, but I have no interest in playing with an engine that hasn't been updated for what, 8 - 9 years? If you want to do something in one of the HPS titles then I'll be glad to participate...heck, I'll even design a scenario or two if need be.



Maréchal Hamilton,
Duc de Barbancon
21st Division
VII Corps, ADR

1er Regiment Garde
Fusiler-Grenadiers

... or we could use HPS Jena for the base and set up a hypothetical situation of capture the flag.

I gave all my BattleGround games away years ago, as many others in the club did as well, so I won't be playing unless it is a HPS engine based game.


Colonel Al Amos
1erè Brigade Commandant
2ème Division de Dragons

I think an anniversary tournament is a great idea but I too no longer play the Battleground games. It would be a shame if members were excluded because of this (including some members who have been in the club since its earliest days). Rich's offer to create some special HPS tournament scenarios sounds well worth investigating, in my opinion. There is plenty of time to give all this some thought...

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OK...

I have been working on something, but was not ready to divulge yet...

For those of you who belong to the ACWGC, you would be familiar with the tournament there that has the games played in chronological order ( the HACW Tournament ).

I am working on a similar one for the NWC.

The basic premise is that the historical scenarios will be played in chronological order.

I am now in the process of determining what battles took place and the dates.

Next I determine what game disks will have the battles...

lots of work still ahead.

I could always use a few hands to help....


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Commanding L'Armee du Rhin
Grande Duc de Piave et Comte de Beauvais
Commanding the Division de Cavalerie de la Moyenne Garde
NWC President</center>

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<br />OK...

I have been working on something, but was not ready to divulge yet...

For those of you who belong to the ACWGC, you would be familiar with the tournament there that has the games played in chronological order ( the HACW Tournament ).

I am working on a similar one for the NWC.

The basic premise is that the historical scenarios will be played in chronological order.

I am now in the process of determining what battles took place and the dates.

Next I determine what game disks will have the battles...

lots of work still ahead.

I could always use a few hands to help....


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Commanding the Division de Cavalerie de la Moyenne Garde
NWC President</center>
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Maréchal Corbin,

It would be great to have a tournament like the HACW for the Napoleonic Wars. I have considered the idea but I have not the time necessary to manage two huge tournaments simultaneously.
If you need help with the compilation of scenarios, I have already make research on this with the some of the material from the NIR Project and the Cobexlaw sites. I have the names and dates of many historical battles on my list. I can also made a list for the five HPS titles if needed.

Your humble servant,




Sekondlieutenant Harold Lajoie
Prussian Army, Detachment Kompanies and Artillerie, 4 Infanterie-Brigade, I ArmeeKorps.

Harold

Great to hear you hgave some of thes done..

I am without a PC for a few day so please send me the list to my HQ:

chief_of_staff@rogers.com

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Commanding the Division de Cavalerie de la Moyenne Garde
NWC President</center>

Historical may not work out unless you have both sides do a mirror match or similar to my Pride of the Patch setup where 2 players play 2 players and they play the same scenario but switch sides in that battle. Best score wins.

Bill Peters
Armee du Rhin - V Corps, 5ème Division, 20ème légère Brigade de Cavalerie, 13ème Hussar Regiment
HPS Napoleonic Scenario Designer (Eckmuhl, Wagram, Jena-Auerstaedt and ... more to come)

[url="http://www.fireandmelee.net"]Fire and Melee Wargame site[/url]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Bill Peters</i>
<br />Historical may not work out unless you have both sides do a mirror match or similar to my Pride of the Patch setup where 2 players play 2 players and they play the same scenario but switch sides in that battle. Best score wins.

Bill Peters
Armee du Rhin - V Corps, 5ème Division, 20ème légère Brigade de Cavalerie, 13ème Hussar Regiment
HPS Napoleonic Scenario Designer (Eckmuhl, Wagram, Jena-Auerstaedt and ... more to come)

[url="http://www.fireandmelee.net"]Fire and Melee Wargame site[/url]


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Lt. Peters,
as I see it and I think that's in Maréchal Corbin's mind, the winner of this historical tournament should not be individual players but the French or Coalition side. All the players will try to win their battle to give points to their side. Naturally, the players should register their games to gain OBD points as usual. This formula was successful with the HACW and the Union won a relatively close contest (1599 to 1381 points). Concerning the unbalanced scenarios, if a great number of various battles are played, it could be a close tournament.

Sekondlieutenant Harold Lajoie
Prussian Army, Detachment Kompanies and Artillerie, 4 Infanterie-Brigade, I ArmeeKorps.

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<br />Historical may not work out unless you have both sides do a mirror match or similar to my Pride of the Patch setup where 2 players play 2 players and they play the same scenario but switch sides in that battle. Best score wins.

Bill Peters
Armee du Rhin - V Corps, 5ème Division, 20ème légère Brigade de Cavalerie, 13ème Hussar Regiment
HPS Napoleonic Scenario Designer (Eckmuhl, Wagram, Jena-Auerstaedt and ... more to come)

[url="http://www.fireandmelee.net"]Fire and Melee Wargame site[/url]


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Lt. Peters,
as I see it and I think that's in Maréchal Corbin's mind, the winner of this historical tournament should not be individual players but the French or Coalition side. All the players will try to win their battle to give points to their side. Naturally, the players should register their games to gain OBD points as usual. This formula was successful with the HACW and the Union won a relatively close contest (1599 to 1381 points). Concerning the unbalanced scenarios, if a great number of various battles are played, it could be a close tournament.

Sekondlieutenant Harold Lajoie
Prussian Army, Detachment Kompanies and Artillerie, 4 Infanterie-Brigade, I ArmeeKorps.

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Harold has it right on as to scoring and general layout of the proposed tourny...

I will also be including BG scenarios ( Were possible ) for battles not included in any of the HPS disks


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Commanding L'Armee du Rhin
Grande Duc de Piave et Comte de Beauvais
Commanding the Division de Cavalerie de la Moyenne Garde
NWC President</center>

I've already had several interested responses via email by members to play this TS YTAT. Many (particularly in E./C. Europe) still play only the TS games for their own particular reasons.

How about running a dual path tournament? I'll (Dirk S) run the TS YTAT, and John C run the HPS proposal as outlined by several below?

I'm cool with whatever the club decides in the end.

Regards


Col. Dirk Smith
1e Bg, 16 Dv, V Corps
Armee du Rhin

No Objections here

One thing to note.

The tourny I am proposing will most likely last longer than 1 year. Once it is done, I will start the whole thing over. By which time more games will have bveen released.

A note to you BG only guys... No worries that you will not be ab;e to participate.... I will always have something for you.

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Commanding L'Armee du Rhin
Grande Duc de Piave et Comte de Beauvais
Commanding the Division de Cavalerie de la Moyenne Garde
NWC President</center>

Sirs,

please HPS games.

In that way they who plays the Battleground sce. again and again
will be at a disadvantage [8D][:D]

Major Ola 'Freiherr' Berli
IR 18 d'Aspre
II Armee Korps
Imperial Austrian Army

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Sirs,

please HPS games.

In that way they who plays the Battleground sce. again and again
will be at a disadvantage [8D][:D]

Major Ola 'Freiherr' Berli
IR 18 d'Aspre
II Armee Korps
Imperial Austrian Army


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It will be a mix ogf BG and HPS.. NOte taht battles not yet on HPS disks wiull have to come from someplace

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Commanding L'Armee du Rhin
Grande Duc de Piave et Comte de Beauvais
Commanding the Division de Cavalerie de la Moyenne Garde
NWC President</center>