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 Post subject: Re: The Good and the Bad
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:18 pm 
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Well i don't know all the by rules of the clubs but in the ACWGC there is alot of generals who don't command. So they must obviously have a lax rule regarding who becomes a general based upon points.


The reason for that is it is a much larger Club with a lot more armies and command spots, also many members there have been members for years on end. So people have rotated in and out of commands over and over again for years and that is how, at least on the CSA side people have been promoted. It is a much more fluid system than it is here. We are a smaller, club, smaller armies, less commands to hold, plus less turn over either.

I am on my 6th or 7th command position held now there......

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:27 pm 
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Perhaps term limits then? In my reeanctment group we actually held elections for the various ranks, we turned over our captain every 2 years. It was a nice system because if you wanted rank you moved up the ladder , did your bit then back to private until you wanted to move up again. I'm not advocating that exact sysytem but perhaps officers could keep their rank when they rotate out of command.I think currently in some of the armies perhaps favoritism is going on.

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If any one wants to know what's between me an the command of the French the Club President knows I have told him. Ask him :x


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:37 pm 
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David Stotsenburgh wrote:
Perhaps term limits then? In my reeanctment group we actually held elections for the various ranks, we turned over our captain every 2 years. It was a nice system because if you wanted rank you moved up the ladder , did your bit then back to private until you wanted to move up again. I'm not advocating that exact sysytem but perhaps officers could keep their rank when they rotate out of command.I think currently in some of the armies perhaps favoritism is going on.


I think the issue overall is you would lack for volunteers in most armies. The ACWGC had a flush of people volunteering a few years ago, but now it is a lot of the same folks rotating in, rotating out and taking a break and then going back in. At least on the Coalition side we've got issues with getting enough help to keep things afloat. The French might be different, I don't know....

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 1:51 pm 
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Well it was just a suggestion. The French have to run their own army, i just don't see why there can't be something done for Cliff. Until they give him a shot how do they know whether he will be any good or not? I think letting people rotate in and out of command positions and keeping their rank is reasonable ,especially if they have more people willing than positions available.

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I think the issue overall is you would lack for volunteers in most armies. The ACWGC had a flush of people volunteering a few years ago, but now it is a lot of the same folks rotating in, rotating out and taking a break and then going back in. At least on the Coalition side we've got issues with getting enough help to keep things afloat. The French might be different, I don't know....


I was Division commander in the ACWGC a few years ago, then didn't have much time for it and was replaced. Usually it's like you say, you have to be volunteer to do it. And then there has to have space for a commanding position.

For the French army, and for what I know, we used to have administrative duties as Brigade commander back in the days. So I came quickly in command of a brigade. Then later became a division commander. Usually not many people are interested in administrative duties because it is not that fun anyway. It was easy because we had at some point 3 divisions with each at least 2 brigade commanders. At that time in the IIIrd Corps we had at least 7 commanding positions with administrative duty. And they were not always filed-up.

Then, I became less active for a few years but didn't want to leave the army. I came back to activity more than a year ago and volunteered to become division commander. In my corps we only have 3 commanding positions: the corps commander and the 2 divisions officers. And that's it. Our corps is small. So for sure we have less possibilities to see someone becoming general unless he is eligible (victory points) to get in the Imperial Guard.

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The III Corps is a very find Corps it has III Corps 21 active members 9 Generals 3 colonels 1Lt Col 1 chef de Sq 2 Captains 5 Lt


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:15 pm 
Greetings,

The Good: I'm thankful for the Opponent's Forum as a place to find other players to engage in games with, and to meet and make new friends from the world over in the Rhine Tavern.

I find the club a great place to share our enthusiasms for this historical epoch, and appreciate the links and information so many offer in the threads.

Personally, I like roleplaying the character I have made, an officer of Tirailleurs, and interacting with the other colorful cast of characters that inhabit this milieu we have created.

The Bad: Really, this is no greater or worse than any cyber space where people choose to gather and communicate. Occasionally someone will act in a hurtful or bullying manner, often unintentionally, but sometimes with the malice of anger in the moment.
Fortunately, we have a decent group of moderators, and truly a self-policing membership, that will typically step in and defuse the tense moments that may arise.

All in all, I think we are very lucky to have this club and forums at our disposal.
So, a big thank you to everyone who makes this possible.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:33 pm 
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David Stotsenburgh wrote:
Well i don't know all the by rules of the clubs but in the ACWGC there is alot of generals who don't command. So they must obviously have a lax rule regarding who becomes a general based upon points.

All those generals in the ACWGC will have served at the level that made them eligible for the particular rank at some point. I don't have a command position in the ACWGC now (although I do still run an army website) but I previously held army and theater command positions, so I retain the General rank. I think the idea is to give incentives to volunteer for command/admin duties, and to reward such service. You keep the rank because you earned it.

I don't have a strong opinion on how things should be done here. It's up to the Cabinet and membership to determine what would work best here...

It would be good though to see a veteran like Cliff being given some sort of opportunity to gain promotion to a higher rank. How, I don't know. It's not really any of my business...

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Mesi, Tony but their mind is made up if I put up a website maybe for Haiti they still wouldn't. I can't understand since a Brig Gen is just a title and does nothing because all the Admin duties are done by full Gen and above there are 9 Gen in the III Corps and only two do anything! The rest are all OG :oops:


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There are many features of the NWC which I value, but the most meaningful for me continues to be meeting new friends from around the world who share my passion for Napoleonic gaming and military history. I have found that getting involved in multi-player games has been most rewarding in this regard and has also added the dimension of teamwork to what previously had been largely an individual pass time. I am very appreciative of all the work done by the club administrators who provide the framework for the Rhine Tavern, Opponent Finder, Game registration system, tournaments and the constantly evolving Army web pages.
As for changes, I agree with Colin Knox that we should all be more tolerant. Finally, I support Scott Ludwig's idea of adding a new section to the forum which would focus on the discussion of historical questions/issues/concerns.

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