Napoleonic Wargame Club (NWC)

Gentlemen,

We are organizing a Guard Challenge for 2009. If you are a member of one of the French or Allied guard units and are interested to participate please sent an email to Drew Stone or me.



Generaal-majoor Marco Rietveld
2e Divisie Commander
I Corps
Allied/Dutch Army

Why not get the Guard games from 2008 finished or get the results posted?

FM Sir 'Muddy' Jones, KG
2nd Life Guards, Household Cavalry

I'd certainly be interested in being in the next Guards Challenge. However I agree with Sir Muddy that we ought to get the last tournament wrapped up first (actually it started in 2007!). I don't know if some of the games even got started, never mind completed. I always update the website when participants keep me informed, but this doesn't happen often, and this silence leaves me with the impression that not all the participants were fully committed to the tournament. One would expect the opposite to be true in a tournament involving the club's elite Guard officers. What does it mean to be given the honour of a Guards commission? Something for all to ponder...

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When I look at the webpage with the information about the last Guard Challenge both the Allies and French have 1 major victory. This would mean a draw. Of the 7 games only two were finished. Either the players have stopped the game one point in time or didn't sent the result to the organisers. I think I have sent reminders to the players to report the status of their game but not many did.

I think most players don't realize that these multiplayer games can take a long time to finish and need a high rate of file exchange to get some speed in the game.

I presumed that when a game isn't finished after almost two years its probably dead and its no use waiting for them to finish.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/a.r.barlow ... engeIV.htm

Generaal-majoor Marco Rietveld
2e Divisie Commander
I Corps
Allied/Dutch Army

I can tell you that Jeff and I reported a Draw in our game against our Russian opponents who stopped responnding.

Jeff came on board with me after Drew stopped responding.

Battle #7 is a draw.


Maréchal John Mitchell
Grande Duc de Rivoli et Comte de Bordeaux
Commandant Division Infanterie; La Veille Garde
105e Regiment d' Infantrie Ligne,
2e Brigade, 1er Division Infanterie,
I Corp, AdN

I am interested in paticipating if it is going to actually happen. In our case we couldn't get the opponents on board, and that seems to be more common than to have it actually completed. What can be done to ensure that those who sign up really intend to follow through?

Maréchal Theron Lambert
Grande Duc de Montereau et Duc d'Angers
Cavalerie du VI Corps
Armee du Rhin
Commandant Grenadiers a Pied "les Grognards"

The problem is when a team doesn't respond the intitiative lays with the team which is waiting. You have to sent emails to remind them that you are waiting for their turn. This can become a real pain after a couple of times.

I am in favor to install the following rules:
1. File exchange should be done within a week or a good reason has to be given why this is not possible.
2. When there is no respond by a team within two weeks the other team scores a major victory no matter what the score was at that moment in the game.

By these rules the initiative lays with the delaying team. If they don't respond they will lose the battle. There is always room to discuss the pace of playing a game by both teams but this has to be done before the game starts. When nothing is agreed about the file return rate the rules specified above have to be followed.


Generaal-majoor Marco Rietveld
2e Divisie Commander
I Corps
Allied/Dutch Army

Mssrs.,

Clearly the level of interest in the Gds Challenge has dropped significantly from the first matches. Our opponents also abandoned the field in our battle, #3, just as the tide was turning towards a French victory. Moreover, there were continual delays and long stretches without communication.

I'm not sure what the answer is, but mayhaps you should consider limiting the number of participants.

Regards,

Paco

<i>Maréchal</i> M. Francisco Palomo
<i>Prince d'Essling, Grande Duc d'Abrantes et
Comte de Marseille
Commandant - Division de Cavalerie de la Vieille Garde </i>

Paco,

When your opponents abandoned the field that means a major victory for your team. Else it will be impossible to score a victory when your opponents "disseapear" when the game is going badly for them.

When you are not able to follow the rules as specified in my other post its no use participating. I prefer a smaller group of players who are dedicated than a large number with many having no intention to finish a game.



Generaal-majoor Marco Rietveld
2e Divisie Commander
I Corps
Allied/Dutch Army

It may be worth having rules spelled out about
stoppages in communication etc...



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Commanding L'Armee du Rhin
Grande Duc de Piave et Comte de Beauvais
Commanding the Division de Cavalerie de la Moyenne Garde
NWC President</center>

John,

What kind of rules do suggest different than the ones I mentioned ?

1. File exchange should be done within a week or a good reason has to be given why this is not possible.
2. When there is no respond by a team within two weeks the other team scores a major victory no matter what the score was at that moment in the game.

Generaal-majoor Marco Rietveld
2e Divisie Commander
I Corps
Allied/Dutch Army

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<br />John,

What kind of rules do suggest different than the ones I mentioned ?

1. File exchange should be done within a week or a good reason has to be given why this is not possible.
2. When there is no respond by a team within two weeks the other team scores a major victory no matter what the score was at that moment in the game.

Generaal-majoor Marco Rietveld
2e Divisie Commander
I Corps
Allied/Dutch Army



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Actually, these are pretty good...

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Commanding L'Armee du Rhin
Grande Duc de Piave et Comte de Beauvais
Commanding the Division de Cavalerie de la Moyenne Garde
NWC President</center>

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Sir I am not absolutely sure why we discountinued responding (maybe my personal problems), it was realy interesting battle. Please you accept my apologies for that[:(].

If you want revenge my sword is available.

General-Mayor Martin 'Fear' Butas
7 Pekhotnyi korpus
2 Zapadnaya armiya
Leib-gvardii Yegerskiy Polk

The list of participants so far:
Antony Barlow(allies)
Martin Butas(allies)
Muddy Jones(allies)
Eugene Gulyaev(allies)
Ed Blackburn(allies)
Anton Valeryevich Kosyanenko (allies)
Theron Lambert(French) 

If your name is not on this list and you want to participate please sent me an email. Especially French officers are needed. Could all participants sent me a list of the games they own so we can create teams.


Generaal-majoor Marco Rietveld
2e Divisie Commander
I Corps
Allied/Dutch Army

sign me up

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Commanding L'Armee du Rhin
Grande Duc de Piave et Comte de Beauvais
Commanding the Division de Cavalerie de la Moyenne Garde
NWC President</center>