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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:08 am 
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Hi all,

We are trying to start a Eckmuhl-wagram campaign and niether of us can seem to get the encryption key to work. It is ticked and we have both tried from our respective and opposing side to change it but no luck. Any advise would be much appreciated.



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:21 am 
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as afr as I know there is no encryption on campaign games ( files ending with .cpf )

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:18 pm 
Correct, encryption is not available when playing campaigns.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:54 pm 
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Thank you gentelmen that clarifies thing for us totally [:D].

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:43 pm 
I was wondering if most players have figured out how to get encryption to work for 'campaign games'?
The issue has arisen during some recent play, and I have done so, and will gladly share information if anyone needs it.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:35 pm 
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Todd Schmidgall wrote:
I was wondering if most players have figured out how to get encryption to work for 'campaign games'?
The issue has arisen during some recent play, and I have done so, and will gladly share information if anyone needs it.


Don't keep It a secret man... Spill :D

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:47 pm 
Sir, salute!
This is what I do...
As you know, the campaign scenario file .cpf will not allow you to use the encryption key.
However, if you change the name of the scenario thru the 'save as' button, this will automatically create your new game file as a .bte which is now found in the main program menue, under 'old' battles, 'Play By Email'.
The new .bte file allows use of the encryption key.
I do this now.
Another concern for people has been, what if you are playing a campaign that involves more than one battle, because once you have created the new .bte file, when that scenario is over, it will not update the campaign file.
This is correct.
The answer is: keep the original .cpf file in the folder. When you are done with the .bte file, go back to the .cpf file, and use the termination bid dialog, and simply enter the Victory Level reached in the .bte file. These scenarios don't update casualties, they move you along based on Victory Level reached.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:53 pm 
This young Lieutenant is obviously a genius............and he is French. Hmmmm, I am going to have to think about that for a bit.... :? :? :?


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:06 pm 
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Creative, but you lose the attrition effect on the forces as the campaign moves forward. To me this is one of the key things in the campaign


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:09 pm 
I have the Jena, Austerlitz, Russian Campaign, and Leipzig games, and I'm not aware of any attrition effects being allowed in them.
Are they part of the campaigns in the games I don't mention above?


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:30 am 
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You will only want to use the encryption feature with a campaign that only has ONE battle. You will not be able to continue on to the next battle otherwise.

There are several campaigns in the games that offer only ONE battle.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:06 am 
I just trust my opponent and I don't cheat them, seems to work for me. No encryption needed.

Todd, when playing a multi-battle campaign some losses can be replaced for the next battle. Your method would not allow players to experience of 'wear and tear' on thier units from battle to battle.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:08 am 
Regards the multi - battle campaigns, the one's I have played don't incorporate attrition losses from one battle to another, which doesn't mean there aren't any that do.
I also agree on the not worrying about players cheating, as someone once said, why bother playing if one is so worried about that.
The reason I wanted to bring it up is I have encountered players who say they don't PBEM Campaign games precisely because you can't encrypt them, and there are lots of scenarios the method does work on that people are missing out on.
By the way, for my own information, what campaign games do allow attrition from one scenario to another (just a couple if the list is too extensive). I have Jena, Austerlitz, Russian Campaign, and Leipzig, and have never encountered it, that I recall). Such a process does sound very interesting.
I think I recall the method being used in the original Battleground Talonsoft Waterloo game, but I could never get it to work. Thanks.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:15 am 
Open the campaign editor, and open each campaign, you will then see many, many campaigns that have more than one branch, which means multiple battles. Most campaigns that I know of have more than one battle.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:20 am 
Oh yes, I know there are plenty of battles within campaigns, I play the Jena campaign, etc.
However, I have not experienced losses carrying over from one battle to another. In fact, the guides usually tell you this does not happen, regarding casualties.
Which is why I suggested using the termination bid in the original cpf file to advance from one scenario to another after playing the bte file using encryption. I have played this way, and have not encountered losses going from one battle to another. Of course, I don't play modified games (because computer stuff is greek and latin to me, and I unfortunately don't speak the classics...).


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