Napoleonic Wargame Club (NWC)

Gentlemen,

Paradox Interactive has announced March of Eagles to be released at Feb. 18th. Using the Europa Universalis engine (used in Hearts of Iron as well) this game is about the European history of the years 1805 til 1820. Much is announced: strategical and tactical warfare on land and at sea, management of leaders and logistics, political influence on nations, economical and political organization of the players nation.

Well, lets see what is true about this and how it will work. I intend to jump right in as soon as possible and will keep your informed whether it is worth a closer look or not. It might be very interesting for those who fight for Crown of Glory at the moment. CoG-EE seems to be the one that MoE will come closest.But I hope to see some more officers on the battlefield when its is time for action. And this means as well you, French officers.

For King and Country!

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Please count me in Juergen-

I was a huge fan of Europa Universalis III

Who knows, maybe I would be able to once more conquer Napoleonic France with the mighty armies of Spain or the Ottoman Empire!

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Best Regards

Primer Teniente
Fernando LopezGallo
Tiradores De Castilla
Brigada Española
The Anglo Allied Army

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Please keep us informed Juergen....Hakan too! I am keen to see if we can use this and jump on the band wagon on time to pick people up for the Club....

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Generalfeldmarschall Scott Kronprinz "Vorwärts" Ludwig von Preußen
Kommandeur des Königlich-Preußischen Armee-Korps
Chief of Staff (CoS) of the Allied Coalition
Allied Coalition Webmaster & Club Website Support

with rustem we tried for some Histwar games but not many in the club were interested, maybe after hw2 ? not sure but MotE may be different, tho 8 players being online and playing real time may be hard ? also suitable for club games i have doubts as 8 players MP battle it is ..? 4 coalition vs 4 french (or 3 coalition vs 3 french etc.) is not the aim of this game i guess like in HPS and Histwar ...

I know you guys tried with HistWar and I am thankful that you did. I personally have never been able to spend the money like that on the game, especially since it got a bad wrap when it first came out. Is HistWar 2 under development? Maybe more people will be open to it. I still want to get it and try it, but now isn't a good time either for that....which harkens to what Mark said in the other forum about time & money, though I have been catious as well as the game had issues when it first came out.

8 players in real time could be tricky, I wish they would build in PBEM to it, that'd make it easier. I am assuming for the players issue it would be like a CoG MP where it doesn't matter as long as at least one player is from another side, it would be considered a fight. Time will only tell how we can fit it into the Club. I personally love Paradox's games myself. It is sad them & AGEOD parted ways. I also hope Slitherine will produce a few more Nappy games too. Their Commander series is awesome!

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Generalfeldmarschall Scott Kronprinz "Vorwärts" Ludwig von Preußen
Kommandeur des Königlich-Preußischen Armee-Korps
Chief of Staff (CoS) of the Allied Coalition
Allied Coalition Webmaster & Club Website Support

Gentlemen,

I am curious as to how many non HPS/JT games have been played in 2012 or are currently being played by members of this club?

Yes, it is good to offer a wide variety of options for the members, but if you concentrate on doing just a few things well, you gain a good reputation. Currently I believe that the NWC has a great reputation for the HPS/JT games.

being a no HPS/JT officer in this club for 3 years i have to agree with you Scott. even i thought about quiting the club as i could only played 4-5 games in 3 years !?! but our previous LGA commander advised me to wait for a while. Maybe histwar2 will make a change or MotE will be suitable for the club we will see, but yes NWC is a perfect HPS/JT napoelonic club i am sure.

Scott:

If only a few non HPS/JT games are currently being played may be due to the fact that the Club has not tried (nor appears willing to) open or promote new gaming options/titles for members.

I DO like HPS games.

But I dont share nor do I agree with the idea of the NWC focusing exclusively on HPS/JT games-

This is a Nappy Gaming Club-

More Game Titles would mean more members, more games being played and more variety for players looking for an alternative.

Regards,


Primer Teniente
Fernando LopezGallo
Tiradores De Castilla
Brigada Española
The Anglo Allied Army

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That is the issue, we known for only playing those games....I've seen us referred to as the HPS or John Tiller Club. The series will end some point soon, to continue to gain new recruits and offer up chances to get people on board the games we play need to be expanded and within sound judgment too. Not everyone likes to play the HPS/JTS games. There is a whole world of Napoleonic gaming beyond them.

Furthermore with the HPS/JTS games we compete with the Blitz directly for members and our relationship with them I don't think is the best per say. Some of these other games have no home, so it is wise to see if they are worth adding as it brings in fresh blood. It is about offering services and new ways to get people in, both traditional and non-traditional members. You can't be closed minded when it comes to recruitment.

For your stats, 28 games have been played in all the combined games since we started tracking in DoR, there are probably a few in the old system too. You may say that is low, but it is higher than the number of games that have been played in both Battleground Waterloo and Prelude to Waterloo and by a very select group of members. Crown of Glory games take a long time to play, but we have a dedicated group of players for them. We used to have more, but half have filtered out now and for reasons I am not sure of....

There are enough volunteers to support efforts like this and there is enough interest amongst some people that it is worth looking in to.

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Generalfeldmarschall Scott Kronprinz "Vorwärts" Ludwig von Preußen
Kommandeur des Königlich-Preußischen Armee-Korps
Chief of Staff (CoS) of the Allied Coalition
Allied Coalition Webmaster & Club Website Support

I concur with both Hakan and Fernando......

.....the variety is key, the NWC lost the race when it came to HistWar, people flocked to other organizations well before the NWC accepted it as a new game. Even though we have/had a few folks engaging here, their primary Clubs are elsewhere. If we can transform even a little more acceptance or even promotion of such, we stand to gain a lot. At the iNWC in the final year of it we had a great group of CoG gamers and HistWar gamers, we even had a HistWar only Tourney going. It was going to be great and had a guy dedicated to doing HistWar work along with Hakan and Rustem. Had a point man for recruiting for CoG. The CoG point man came to the NWC and is gone now. Have Monte trying to do some for us now, but again the NWC was late in adding the game and lost out on the wave. Hakan and Rustem have worked hard to promote the NWC where they can for HistWar, but now it is just down to Hakan.

Juergen and a few other fellows have tried to drum up support for AGEOD. Tom Borling, Gary Whalen and I have played and enjoy Commander: Napoleon at War a whole heck of a lot.

It can happen, even as a grassroots effort, but it shouldn't be ignored.

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Generalfeldmarschall Scott Kronprinz "Vorwärts" Ludwig von Preußen
Kommandeur des Königlich-Preußischen Armee-Korps
Chief of Staff (CoS) of the Allied Coalition
Allied Coalition Webmaster & Club Website Support

Fernando,

What other Nappy games do you own?

Btw this is the type if discussion the Club should be having. Not a rules rewrite....

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Generalfeldmarschall Scott Kronprinz "Vorwärts" Ludwig von Preußen
Kommandeur des Königlich-Preußischen Armee-Korps
Chief of Staff (CoS) of the Allied Coalition
Allied Coalition Webmaster & Club Website Support

Very interesting discussion.
I would say that for me the problem is not not wanting to play others games but not having the time for it, therefore I concentrate on the HPS/JTS series. I am sure I am not the only one.
Of course I do play real time games but it's usually solo because it's easier than trying to find a time frame to meet an opponent.

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Général David Guegan

3ème Régiment de Grenadiers - Bataillon d'élite du 3ème Légère
2ème Brigade
Grenadiers de la Réserve
Réserve
La Grande Armée
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Scott: I plan to get March Of The Eagles soon-

Could you begin working on a MOtE game topic and a mmm.. list of club members interested in playing it?

We can form a Petit Entente of NWC players advocating non HPS games ( =

I also own a copy of Crown Of Glory (yet to install) due to time issues
As soon as I learn to play Crown Of Glory, I will be happy to join the proud few playing it

Personally I´d rather play grand strategy simulators over tactical games.

Im also one of the very few players trying to keep the Matrix/Talonsoft games alive over here..


Regards,

Primer Teniente
Fernando LopezGallo
Tiradores De Castilla
Brigada Española
The Anglo Allied Army

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Timeframe issues certainly are a key factor in a lot of RTS games. It is a reason why I don't jump into them headfirst. But none of these games we have added right now are RTS only, not even HistWar which has a PBEM option.

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Generalfeldmarschall Scott Kronprinz "Vorwärts" Ludwig von Preußen
Kommandeur des Königlich-Preußischen Armee-Korps
Chief of Staff (CoS) of the Allied Coalition
Allied Coalition Webmaster & Club Website Support

I could for sure.....I think this will serve as the game topic until the game comes out and I'll try to draw up a list from those who post they are interested.

Once you get CoG up and running let me koow and maybe either Juergen or Monte Grey or one of the other guys can get you situated and learning the game.

I am glad you play Matrix/Talonsoft, so do I. There are things about those games I enjoy more than HPS/JTS.

But there is no reason why there can't be little pockets of people who like these games playing them. It is not like anyone is forcing people to buy certain games.....but you do if you only have a few options to play.

Btw if I may recommend.....Commander: Napoleon at War (CNaW) is a great strategy based game and has enough depth, but not too much.

Try it out from Matrix or Slitherine:

http://www.slitherine.com/games/cnaw

http://www.matrixgames.com/products/362 ... eon.at.War

Worth the download....

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Generalfeldmarschall Scott Kronprinz "Vorwärts" Ludwig von Preußen
Kommandeur des Königlich-Preußischen Armee-Korps
Chief of Staff (CoS) of the Allied Coalition
Allied Coalition Webmaster & Club Website Support