Napoleonic Wargame Club (NWC)

Guys - if you start up the large "Scharnhorst Plan" campaign the choices may result in the PC picking a scenario that only has one turn.

What you would need to do is just restart .... pick the same options and try again.

A NWC member, Jim Pfluecke, found the error and reported it to me.

The corrected scenario will be included in the next update.

In the meantime, I will be looking through all 400+ of the scenarios to make sure that they all have more than one turn!

Another note: Jim opened up the first scenario in that campaign to find that its 524 turns long.

Basically, if you want to put in a Term Bid that would end the game go ahead. A Draw or worse for the French aids the Prussians for the most part. I would go for a Draw if you want to avoid a long scenario.

I will include a second campaign file for this campaign that passes on this long scenario and adds in a set of shorter ones. However, this new campaign will NOT be in the update. It will need time to be looked over. Look for it sometime next year.

If you find anything else wrong with the game let me know or Rich H. Either method will work.

Bill Peters
HPS Napoleonic Scenario Designer (Eckmuhl, Wagram, Jena-Auerstaedt and ... more to come)

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Wow,
thanks Bill. My thought was that the campaign itself can be what, 6-8 battles long, but the first battle is always 534 turns long!

The other two campaigns are basically variations on the Jena-Auersted twin battles set up. I would like to see that as an optional start to the long campaign. If the 534 turn battle starts as an operational setting I would prefer the option to start the big campaign with a two-day, 120 turn version of the battle, like the ones that ship with the game as stand a lone battles.

my 2 cents. The game looks great.
Baron Jim P.


Austrian Kavalry Reserve

Actually there are three campaigns total.

One is "Scharnhort's Plan" and yes, the first scenario is long but that is what the TERM Bid is all about.

The second is the day or two in and around Jena-Auersteadt.

The third is another big, ONE SCENARIO, campaign just like the first one in "Scharnhort's Plan" only the Russians are added to the mix to give the French a better game.

I have contacted my team about the need for a shorter first scenario and might even put out a shorter version of the Scharnhort's Plan as well.

Yes, Scharnhort's Plan CAN go 8 battles long BUT more likely it will last 5-6 at most before you guys totally exhaust your forces! Unless you play conservatively I doubt you will ever see the Russians .... If you go all out from turn 1 like most games where the entire army is mobilized, moved up and thrust at each other like the Gauls against the Romans ... dont worry about the 7th or 8th scenario.

Use your forces as a commander would on campaign. Yes, wipe out a force when you can but if all you do is toss your army at the other guy ... good luck Frenchies. If the Prussian can survive you will be facing 32k fresh Russians at either Bautzen or Görlitz.

Bill Peters
HPS Napoleonic Scenario Designer (Eckmuhl, Wagram, Jena-Auerstaedt and ... more to come)

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Quick update: I just finished looking in every scenario in the game.

So far the only errors I have found are in the abovmentioned file and one other: #11x_Karlsburg.scn ... #11x. Battle of Karlsburg - What-if

In this battle some of the Prussian reinforcements arrive in a woods. This was due to the fact that I was still working on the map as I was finishing up the scenario and inadvertently removed the road where the cavalry/wagons arrive.

Thus so far only 2 files.

I also checked the scenarios for ammo amounts. Another item that can be a problem - zero ammo for one or both sides. As far as I could tell there were no scenarios with zero ammo.

2 out of 400+ files ... pretty poor QC on my part!! [8D]

If you want the updated Karlsburg file before it comes out please email me privately. I will not post it to my site. Dean and I are playing it and I will just have to move my cav through the woods (about 2 hexes of woods) to get them out and on the road ...

Bill Peters
HPS Napoleonic Scenario Designer (Eckmuhl, Wagram, Jena-Auerstaedt and ... more to come)

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Bill,
yes 2 out of hundred is pretty good. I understand that you can termination bid around the long scenario but I would like to be able to fight a medium lenght battle at Jena and, if the Prussians survive, go on in the campaign. A set piece battle starting the day before the big double battle so there is still time to manouver a bit.

thanks,
Jim P

Austrian Kavalry Reserve

Well Finally an 1806 game. I started by reviewing the OOB scn. As a long time student of the 1806 Prussian Army I was a bit dismayed at what appears to be a significant discrepency-at least by my research. The Prussian artillery is severely under gunned. Based on Meyerhoffer's German General Staff study all the brigade batteries were 12# (6-12# guns, 2-10# How). The horse were all 6# (6-6# guns, 2-7# How). The Reserve Batteries (one @ with Saxe-Weimar & Louis Ferdinand; and, one split between Ruchel and Blucher) each had 12-6# guns. The Regimental gun sections two per Battalion (both Musketier and Grenadier) were 6#. The Fusiliers had 3#s, but they were not deployed with the bns during the campaign. The two Howiter batteries had 8-7# How. The army as a whole had 36-12# foot, 20-6# horse, 8-Reserve and 4-howitzer batteries. By "issuing" 8# & 6# foot and 4# horse across the Prussian forces reduces their already tenueous capability. [:(]

The Saxon Army did have 8# batteries (2 of them with 6 guns and 2-8# how). The Saxons also had 1-12# bty (6 guns, 2-8# how), 1-4# foot (6g, 2h), 2 How btys (6-4# how or Granatstucken and 2-4# guns); 1-4# horse bty (6-4# guns and 2-4# how).

It is nice to see the Jagers armed appropriately with rifles; and really surprising to see the battalion 3rd Rank skirmish detachments provided and armed with rifles. [:)]

I have some other issues, but they are minor and would probably be construed at nitpicking (and probably acurately so), so i will not bring them up.



Lt Col Beric Kimball
Cdr, 2d Bde, Cheval Legere, II Cps, AdN

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<br />Well Finally an 1806 game. I started by reviewing the OOB scn. As a long time student of the 1806 Prussian Army I was a bit dismayed at what appears to be a significant discrepency-at least by my research. The Prussian artillery is severely under gunned. Based on Meyerhoffer's German General Staff study all the brigade batteries were 12# (6-12# guns, 2-10# How). The horse were all 6# (6-6# guns, 2-7# How). The Reserve Batteries (one @ with Saxe-Weimar & Louis Ferdinand; and, one split between Ruchel and Blucher) each had 12-6# guns. The Regimental gun sections two per Battalion (both Musketier and Grenadier) were 6#. The Fusiliers had 3#s, but they were not deployed with the bns during the campaign. The two Howiter batteries had 8-7# How. The army as a whole had 36-12# foot, 20-6# horse, 8-Reserve and 4-howitzer batteries. By "issuing" 8# & 6# foot and 4# horse across the Prussian forces reduces their already tenueous capability. [:(]

The Saxon Army did have 8# batteries (2 of them with 6 guns and 2-8# how). The Saxons also had 1-12# bty (6 guns, 2-8# how), 1-4# foot (6g, 2h), 2 How btys (6-4# how or Granatstucken and 2-4# guns); 1-4# horse bty (6-4# guns and 2-4# how).

It is nice to see the Jagers armed appropriately with rifles; and really surprising to see the battalion 3rd Rank skirmish detachments provided and armed with rifles. [:)]

I have some other issues, but they are minor and would probably be construed at nitpicking (and probably acurately so), so i will not bring them up.



Lt Col Beric Kimball
Cdr, 2d Bde, Cheval Legere, II Cps, AdN
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Beric - I used various OB references, none of which give the Prussians 12lb guns across the board for brigade guns.

For instance, "Die Schlacht Bei Jena Und Auerstedt AM 14. Oktober 1806" lists the Batterie zu Pferd Willmann (Prince of Orange's division) as having six 4lb guns (type X gun in the OB file).

Battery Riemer in Blucher's division has six 6lb guns.
Battery Heser has six 8lb guns.

So I am afraid I must reject the source you give as I used three sources and none of them concur with yours.

You are free to put an OB together than reflects the views of this source. I just fail to understand how ALL of the brigade batteries could possibly be 12lb guns.

Feel free to email me any portions of the OB you have.

I will admit to one error ... according to one of my playtesters the regimental guns were probably all put into batteries. I will probably be making up an alternate OB that corrects this but the main OB will have to remain intact as I only found this out after I had done a ton of work. Trying to go back and remove every regimental gun section would be too much work.

I will try and put out an alternate version of the large battles eventually which has all of the regimental sections in one battery. We found that the small regimental sections didnt make that much of a difference in the long run and unlike the ACW series they dont clutter up the roads with a ton of units. I did not advocate using these sections .. I was going to leave them out. I wasnt going to add in the regimental guns until I read some material that supported them.

As in all OBs there is always something about them you wont like. Morale grades, leader/command ratings, etc. There were some things in the French OB that I didnt like either but I went with what I felt was my best "shot" at their army structure.

Thanks for your info. Anytime you want to send me more info on the Prussians I would welcome it.

Bill Peters
HPS Napoleonic Scenario Designer (Eckmuhl, Wagram, Jena-Auerstaedt and ... more to come)

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