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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Bill Peters</i>
<br />Anton: are you saying that there were no uhlan regiments prior to 1806?
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A history of Russian Army uhlans based on Viskovatoff.
1. At the ascend on throne Alexander I had two 10 squadron horse regiments - Polish and Lithuanian-Tartars.
2. 8 apr 1803 the later is divided into Lithanian and Tartars regiments both 5 squadrons strong.
3. 11 sent 1803 10 squadron strong Odessa hussars regiment is raised.
4. 26 sent 1803 regiment is renamed Uhlans His Imperial Highness Cesarevitch Konstantine Pavlovich regiment.
5. 28 apr 1807 one more horse regiment is rased Volynian Horse. 5 sq.
6. November 1807 all the regiments are renamed into Polish uhlans, Lithuanian uhlans, Tartars uhlans, Volynian uhlans. First being 10, others 5 squadrons.
7. 18 aug 1808 Tchuguev cossacks regiment is renamed into Tchuguev uhlans. 10 sq.
8. 18 oct 1808 all Polish, Lithuanian, Tartars and Volynian regts are brought into 10 squadrons plus one reserve.
9. 12 dec 1809 Grand Duke's uhlans are transferred into Guard.

BTW, never heard about any difficulties with menstrength of Polish uhlans. In terms of awards presented in 1812 Polish regiment was the most effective.

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<center><b>Eyo Imperatorskogo Velichestva Leib-Kirassirskogo polku
General-Adjutant Anton Valeryevich Kosyanenko
Commander of the Second Army of the West </b></center>

The uniform changed over time. What I posted first was the one for 1803-1808.
Since 1808 till 1811 it was like this
[image]http://www.museum.ru/1812/Army/Viskowatov/t11/pic/11-1546.jpg[/image]
Take notice how the uniform changed. The form of the headwear is quite different, the plume is completely different, plus minor changes.
Since 1811 it was like this
[image]http://www.museum.ru/1812/Army/Viskowatov/t11/pic/11-1553.jpg[/image]

Mark, what do you think I'm doing here all this time if not helping you to make the product better?

As for the sources. You could simply ask in this forum. Or any other forum. For example the one at www.napoleon-series.org it has very competent people able to speak in numerous languages. You could type "Russian uhlans" in google and see within top 10 pictures the one from Viskovatoff, next trying to find out who it was. You can use google translate to operate on the sites that you can't read. And if you can distinguish uhlan from hussar you could operate on the site even without it - just looking at the dates. We are using the same arabic numbers and the same years numbering. I have no personal hate to you or Bill. I just say that as a researchman I'm not satisfied with the quality of what you call "research". There is no other way to say that one should do his work better than saying that the work done is good enough.

Finally, Bill. I know that cossacks uniforms was sewed before the campaign start and regiments depart to war. It was sewed the same as an example brought from St. Petersburg. There was a simple rule - the coat was blue. BLUE! Not brown, not grey or whatsoever. Blue, blue, blue. Numerous pictures with uniforms of other colors in mass belong not to the Don cossacks. That's it. If the uniform is not blue we have nothing to discuss. It has nothing to do with reality.

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<center><b>Eyo Imperatorskogo Velichestva Leib-Kirassirskogo polku
General-Adjutant Anton Valeryevich Kosyanenko
Commander of the Second Army of the West </b></center>

Anton - you are more than welcome to help me with a couple of projects I am working on which involve the Russian army. If you remember I did ask you to help with a Russo-Swedish campaign for 1808-09 but you said you were working on your thesis.

Now I understand that the scope of work I was looking for you to do was more ambitious than just reviewing artwork so if you are up to helping us out let me know. I will need your help in a few months on a project and probably would just want to send you what we have if you would want to look it over.

We are kind of in a corner sometimes: we dont advertise what we are working on due to our policy of not mentioning what we are working on in advance. But frankly after having spent several hundred dollars out of my own pocket but still come away with less than complete information a few times I am not above allowing more people in on a free CD thus my latest team has over a dozen members. Usually I try and keep it to about eight guys.

Anyway, I have Russians that will need checking and if you are interested just contact me at my email and we can go over some preliminary materials now if you are available. January would be fine as well.

Colonel Bill Peters
Armee du Rhin - V Corps, Cavalerie du V Corps, 20ème légère Brigade de Cavalerie, 13ème Hussar Regiment
HPS Napoleonic Scenario Designer (Eckmuhl, Wagram, Jena-Auerstaedt, Austerlitz and ... more to come)
Not the President of the Musket and Cannon Club

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by moondog830</i>
<br />I used as sources all the books dealing with the Napoleonic Armies of the Napoleonic Wars that Osprey Publishing puts out.
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Mark,

Osprey. Series Warrior #67 "Cossacks 1799-1815" has the same pictures for cossacks that I posted here. Why not to use their colored plates commented in English?

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<center><b>Eyo Imperatorskogo Velichestva Leib-Kirassirskogo polku
General-Adjutant Anton Valeryevich Kosyanenko
Commander of the Second Army of the West </b></center>

A colored picture of Cesarevich Konstantine Uhlans from www.napoleon-series.org Annotated in English
[image]http://www.napoleon-series.org/images/military/organization/russart05b.jpg[/image]

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<center><b>Eyo Imperatorskogo Velichestva Leib-Kirassirskogo polku
General-Adjutant Anton Valeryevich Kosyanenko
Commander of the Second Army of the West </b></center>