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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:47 pm 
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Yet again Oh Dear !
There will always be one that would not let go, and now it seems to be just one (1) :D

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Jim Hall wrote:
Yet again Oh Dear !
There will always be one that would not let go, and now it seems to be just one (1) :D


Thanks for your constructive comment. :evil:

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:26 pm 
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Aloysius Kling, Sr wrote:
Greetings All,

Lets cool down and drop the confrontational approach with an effort to try to work together.

David we am working on details of how we work through the new rules. We agreed to them and think they are workable, we will have something in place once John & I work out how they are to be implemented for the LGA. We will help with the process as always.

Please be patient and we hope to make it as painless as possible and I for one will help to reduce the actual workload on the Corps Commandants.

Thanks

Al


Al,

I don't need to "cool down" as you say. I'm fine. I think I am asking reasonable questions and apparently I am not the only one asking for more information access from the DoR system and that is beyond the Army level it's at the club level.

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So the cabinet wrote a fine new set of rules and had a vote with voting rules implemented by the cabinet assuring their passage and yet can't answer a simple question about how they plan to implement them or how exactly the new rules work? priceless :mrgreen:

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David Stotsenburgh wrote:
So the cabinet wrote a fine new set of rules and had a vote with voting rules implemented by the cabinet assuring their passage and yet can't answer a simple question about how they plan to implement them or how exactly the new rules work? priceless :mrgreen:


Indeed, if unhappy with the result attack the process. Priceless :mrgreen:

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Red Nemesis wrote:
David Stotsenburgh wrote:
So the cabinet wrote a fine new set of rules and had a vote with voting rules implemented by the cabinet assuring their passage and yet can't answer a simple question about how they plan to implement them or how exactly the new rules work? priceless :mrgreen:


Indeed, if unhappy with the result attack the process. Priceless :mrgreen:


So you mean that by asking how will be implement the new rules is attacking the process? I don't follow you.

Maybe you already have the answer about how things will go, if so please share with us so we can benefit from your wisdom. :)

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davidguegan wrote:
Red Nemesis wrote:
David Stotsenburgh wrote:
So the cabinet wrote a fine new set of rules and had a vote with voting rules implemented by the cabinet assuring their passage and yet can't answer a simple question about how they plan to implement them or how exactly the new rules work? priceless :mrgreen:


Indeed, if unhappy with the result attack the process. Priceless :mrgreen:


So you mean that by asking how will be implement the new rules is attacking the process? I don't follow you.

Maybe you already have the answer about how things will go, if so please share with us so we can benefit from your wisdom. :)


I'm saying be patient as you have been asked to do David. It is lately always you and a few others who keep things stirred up. Why don't you give it a rest?

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Red Nemesis wrote:
I'm saying be patient as you have been asked to do David. It is lately always you and a few others who keep things stirred up. Why don't you give it a rest?


That's funny and I really mean it.

To make a brief summary:

The Cabinet is in a hurry to create the new rules without consulting the members prior to writing them, then the cabinet is in a hurry to make us vote on it, then the Cabinet is in a hurry to find an excuse to remove the Coalition CiC and vote him out of the Cabinet even if the election for the new Coalition CinC was supposed to take place this summer.
But then I ask a few questions about how we, the corps commanders, will be able to do our job as explained in the rules; the only answer I receive is cool down and be patient. I hope you do see the irony of the situation in all of that. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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davidguegan wrote:
Red Nemesis wrote:
I'm saying be patient as you have been asked to do David. It is lately always you and a few others who keep things stirred up. Why don't you give it a rest?


That's funny and I really mean it.

To make a brief summary:

The Cabinet is in a hurry to create the new rules without consulting the members prior to writing them, then the cabinet is in a hurry to make us vote on it, then the Cabinet is in a hurry to find an excuse to remove the Coalition CiC and vote him out of the Cabinet even if the election for the new Coalition CinC was supposed to take place this summer.
But then I ask a few questions about how we, the corps commanders, will be able to do our job as explained in the rules; the only answer I receive is cool down and be patient. I hope you do see the irony of the situation in all of that. :lol: :lol: :lol:



I see no irony in the situation at all, only a few sore losers.

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I see no irony in the situation at all, only a few sore losers.


that's the problem, everything has to be a zero sum game.

david is a corps commander asking a valid question of the cabinet. he is then set upon other members wanting to argue. so who is stirring things up, the corps commander with a valid question or the people who attack him?

i would like to think that as much thought went into the new rules as went into how they would be implemented. but that seems to be not the case :(

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I see no irony in the situation at all, only a few sore losers.


that's the problem, everything has to be a zero sum game.

david is a corps commander asking a valid question of the cabinet. he is then set upon other members wanting to argue. so who is stirring things up, the corps commander with a valid question or the people who attack him?

i would like to think that as much thought went into the new rules as went into how they would be implemented. but that seems to be not the case :(



David and yourself are merely engaged in agitation because your are upset that most of the people in the club do not agree with you. David is not asking a reasonable question as there is realyl not much difference at all in how the new rules will affect anything the Corps Commanders do. This was expalined to David earlier in this thread and yet like a broken record he persists in a seemingly endless loop. Now I assume you have also read all the posts in this thread so I can only conclude that you have a very shot attention span or you are also simply interested in attempting to cause additional irritation and discontent. You know there are very real psychological disorders that cause people do this...... :idea:

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Reading all this tripe makes one want to open a vein

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Lga corps commanders can contact me personally about rules issues

Rest assured we can resolve these issues calmly.

Also remember that you have CoS in your corps who can help you. If you do not, we can find one for you

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Red Nemesis wrote:
I see no irony in the situation at all, only a few sore losers.

:?:
Red Nemesis wrote:
David and yourself are merely engaged in agitation because your are upset that most of the people in the club do not agree with you. David is not asking a reasonable question as there is realyl not much difference at all in how the new rules will affect anything the Corps Commanders do. This was expalined to David earlier in this thread and yet like a broken record he persists in a seemingly endless loop. Now I assume you have also read all the posts in this thread so I can only conclude that you have a very shot attention span or you are also simply interested in attempting to cause additional irritation and discontent. You know there are very real psychological disorders that cause people do this...... :idea:

:?:

If you had read more carefully what I said instead of looking for some lame attacks you would have known that:

Before the new rules: we didn't really follow the old rules: the chain of command wasn't used anymore, to be accounted as present you had to answer the muster by email and then last time it was only by answering on the French Forum.

After the Yes vote for the new rules (meaning that now we are supposed to do what is said).
We (corps commanders) are supposed to track the officers who don't answer to the muster and see if they comply to the "active" membership status (see section 2 of the rules). So far I have some questions with 2 of the requirements to be active:
forum activity => I don't want to spend time looking for meaningful messages from members of my corps.
game activity => currently I don't have access to that information unless I ask to the administrator of the DoR.

As for "Maintains accurate records of officers in his command. This would include such things as OBD Points, Medals, Ranks and Email Addresses." I can see the OBD points in the muster, I can see the email (updated by the member himself) but I don't receive email from the system telling me if someone in my corps might be due for a medal or a change of rank which would facilitate my work and I am sure it could be easily implemented in the system.

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