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 Post subject: Bounties - Not Clear
PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 1:26 pm 
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1st let me state that I want no one to take any offence.[:D]

These views are mine, and therefore are solely meant for entertainment, <font size="1">and if you do not like them tough! This is a open forum, I am a registered user, and if you read this far I must be doing something right! Anyone reading this fine print must be interested.</font id="size1">

Now, I will begin.

1st, Bounty rules are completely clear:
<font color="beige"><u>Any entry may be verified with your opponent so please inform them that you are submitting a Bounty.</u></font id="beige">

My 1st question is, if we take the time to fill out the Bounty sheet, why doesn't it pop off an e-mail to the opponent and ourselves for verification? We are threatened with verification, yet none is taken. Now, I know, in good faith we are not submitting bogus claims. But, I think it should be done.

My background. I love the Bounty system! I think it is a great idea in a great club. I play for fun, and if I take or kill a leader I like submitting a Bounty. I do not strive to take leaders, but when it happens I love submitting them.

Now, there are others who do not like the Bounty.

As an American with a military background and with family dating back to American Revolution who fought in it, (and also Civil War, WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War I) I cannot say I believe that those who do not like Bounties can dictate to those that do.

This is a free Country, or so I am told, yet we cannot say the Alliegance to the flag, and we want to change flags because they have some deep hidden meaning for black folk. (And don't give me any racial BS as my wife is Ceylonese(Australian now) - as Brown as Brown Sugar, while her brother is a black as midnight, except when he drinks!) I think too many people like to rewrite history to conform to bogus truths, but I digress...

By the way Sri Lanka loves Americans as Jaffna College was taught by American (southern) Missionaries. And believe it or not, their college song is Bonnie Blue Flag (from TS-BG Shiloh CD). The words are a little different though.

My question is, and should be clarified in the rules, is this a free choice, to submit a bounty or not?

If the game is registered and the opponent does not choose to submit, does that mean the other player is forced not to submit?

Is this a free choice or not?

I respect those that do not wish to use Bounty system. I respect their decision, but I would like that respect in return. Which means I can do as I choose as this is what the <b>United States </b>stands for, and why my family for generations has died for it, Freedom.

I feel that this is part of the play acting we all do and why we enjoy the games so much. I also know that some take things more serious than others, we all are different people with different opinions.

If anyone will not play me because of this, than I am sad, as I only play for fun, but I respect your decision.

So, for one last time, is this a free choice or not?

And if you didn't enjoy my tirade, maybe it is time to join another club! [:D][:(!][xx(][|)][^][V][B)][?][?][?]

Just Kidding! Please have some Firewater on me at the tavern! If you got this far you deserve a drink!


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 1:44 pm 
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By the way, I usually try to play the way the other player wants. Except for ADF, I just love MDF!

See, now no one will want to play me.[:(]


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Paul,

Personally I don't care for bounties though I am sure they are probably historically accurate. In any case if you need a game sir I, as a newly assigned member of the British Army, would be happy to meet you on the field. [:D]


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Mike: He is a real pushover! NOT![:p]

Paul does like MDF, though, The big difference is MDF takes you longer to beat up him.[;)]

As for the bounty:

The bounty system is a fun thing implemented to make a competition for those that WANT to participate. The claims are verified with the opponent, as I have had one opponent mention the bounty claim I had made.

I, generally, do not pay much attemtion to the leaders captured or killed, but in that case I happened to look and this officer had something like 28 points.

As for a free choice, if you do NOT submit, you are not entered and if you play with leader casualities OFF, then no points are assigned to the loss of a leader.


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If I read Paul's post correctly he should not have to worry about his opponent's "preference" at all. His opponent has no say in the matter for it is Paul's choice to post a bounty and he does not need his opponent's permission to do so.

We all have the right to decline posting bounties for our part, but those who do not wish to participate can not interfere with another member's right to place one.

Nor do I see why the participating players have to inform their opponents. If a player gets a confirming email it is just that. An email to assure that the posting player has "got it right" when he posted his bounty. If the "confirming" member refuses to do so he should be removed from the "equation" altogether. The bounty poster should not have to depend on another member to get his post authorized. He can simply send his game file in to be authenticated.

Now as far as getting a confirming email of a bounty posting Paul. This is not as easy as you may think it is. The person who manages the bounty site would have to do this manually and I, for one, do not think he should have to do this (unless he wants to, of course).


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Garry,

Thanks, not being a web guy, I wasn't sure if one could make e-mails come straight from web page.

Man, this is what happens when nobody sends me a game turn early in the morning... I think too much![;)]


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To prevent more forum messages (Yeah, like that WILL happen), I sent you both games back, this morning.[:D][:D][;)]


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ditto, ditto, ditto everything Garry said. [:D][^][:I]


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To Jolly right old Boy . Not a great Bounty man me self but this is exactly the freedom you Yanks seem to enjoy and good luck ta ya [:)]. Bit confused about the flag bit, Thought you changed your flag on a regular basis. Or do you mean the Southern Flag ? As the Prospect of a U.S.E Rears its ugly head my Sympathy for the Brave men that fought for the rights of their states increases. (No offence to our other European members I have lived in 3 European countries and I just hope they and all the other Counties in the E.U are allowed to keep their independence and unique qualities)
I did enjoy hunting down me comrades in the Tourny entered
Brig. Gen. Walter
Commander-in-Chief, British Armies in America
As a Bounty just for fun


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 1:36 pm 
Just as long as there is no Mutiny on the Bounty I am for it. When it causes a club to split then we might look over the system ... and toss the dissenters into Boston Harbor!!!

Ok - we all have a right to take Bounties. Now if I could only find my Capt. Bligh hat!

"Mistah Christiun, have the ship heaved to and the men brought aft to witness punishment." (sounds of Garry Cope being tied to the grate)

"What is the punishment?"

"Sir, Midshipman Cope was caught taking ice cream out of the Officer's icebox."

"Ha, a lively lad. Give him thirty lashes! And be quick about it. I am overdue for my nap!"

(sounds of whip being laid on)

"Sir, he has fainted."

"Serves him right for stealing the ice cream. Let that be a lesson to the rest of the men."

"Sir, our ship's surgeon, Mr. Sands, will attend to Mr. Cope's back."

"Ah, that's a good lad. Take him below and get him out of my sight!"

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As one of the "non-bounty" types, I think I'll just say that to me personally, the system is completely "eh". That does not mean that it is right, or wrong, just that I have no personal interest in it. If my foe wants to submit a bounty (I usually give them plenty of opportunities), I have no problem with it (I think more than one bounty has been paid on my leaders). On the other hand, I will not submit them myself. I just don't care to.


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