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 Post subject: What's best unit?
PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:42 pm 
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In game terms, what's the best unit to have in your arsenal? Any thoughts? Ie, light infantry, or rifles, or 12-lb cannon, or heavy cavalry, or what?


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My personal view is A grade horse artillery
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I like the Russian 12lb batteries myself. Along with that the Imperial Guard cavalry - Gren a' Cheval.

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I would vote Russian 12lb batteries also.[:)]

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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:32 pm 
In my opinion, no single unit is of any use on its own. So the balanced all-arms team is what gets my vote.

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I too would go with a well balanced force, all high quality, and with excellent leaders commanding, of course[8D]

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Blucher,

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Blucher Jim? Well yes he was worth a few brigades of Hussars I guess.
OK the consensus is all arms to which I agree. So the best unit on a field is a French corps with a division of heavy cavalry attached [:D]
So the French Imperial guard seems to fit the bill.


Colonel Colin Knox,
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The thread has to do with UNITs. All of us understand the importance of combined arms.

A 12lb gun PLUS a river in between the enemy destroys combined arms anyway! [:D]

Whether its infantry, cavalry or artillery they all get blown away eventually! [^]

You can have the entire French or Allied army including pioneers (but no boats please). I will take a grand battery of 12lb guns and a river anyday!

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by dragoon</i>
<br />In game terms, what's the best unit to have in your arsenal? Any thoughts? Ie, light infantry, or rifles, or 12-lb cannon, or heavy cavalry, or what?
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How about two hundred skirmishers (multiple units) with a leader and a supply wagon in a chateau like Mt. St. Jean? Such nasty beasties they can be...

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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:42 pm 
How about Guard Inf, highest quality, armed with 12pdrs.

Don't laugh you can do that! [:p]

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My favorite is the big Britsih Guard Infantry battalions at Waterloo. THey can dish out the firepower like there is no tommorrow.

My second is Guard Horse Artillery. Most flexible unit on the map.

I also have a soft spot for the big 12lb Russian batteries.

Cavalry are much overrated. I assume the members of the animal husbandry units will disagree though[:D]

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Al Amos</i>
<br />How about Guard Inf, highest quality, armed with 12pdrs.

Don't laugh you can do that! [:p]

Colonel Al Amos
1erè Brigade Commandant
2ème Division de Dragons


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Hmm, could add that into a future title just for fun.

We can call it Josephine's Battalian! [:D]

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Exhumation researchs show us that the most mortiferous weapon during Napoleonic Wars period was the artillery by far. So my vote go to russian 12lb batteries.

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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 9:28 pm 
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Arty is the main killer on the battlefield, so yes, Russian 12 gun strong 12lb company. But actually wars consist only of several days of figting with weeks and months of marching, maneuvering, etc. The main loses happen in these actions. So my vote goes to cossacks regiment enforced with one regular squadron of dragoons or hussars and 2 gun strong horse arty section. Eh! If only we had cossacks regiments that could pass through the woods and across the streams with no disorder, that could smim across the creeks and even wide rivers (for example Dnieper and even Berezina just at the time remains of the grand armee was crossing it!), that could fall back with no disorder when meleed, That could outmarch any other cavalry, that could dismount and fight just like jaegers.[V] So my vote goes not to the units that facilitate victory in a single battle, but to those that bring vitory in War.[^]

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