Napoleonic Wargame Club (NWC)

Gentlemen Officers of the NWC:

As some of you have already discovered, we have created a new forum where members can view the Cabinet Minutes that we started in January 2013. The purpose of this endeavor is to keep the membership apprised as to any actions taken, and all topics under discussion, in the NWC Cabinet. This is our first attempt to make the governance of our club more open and accessible for our members. We welcome any comments that you may have so that we can continuously improve the service that we provide to the members of the NWC.

I would like to extend a very special thanks to our Club Secretary, Al Kling, for agreeing to take on the additional task of monthly Cabinet Minutes in addition to the many duties he now performs for La Grande Armee.

Very nice to see, though I take particular interest in the word-smithing of it and would be more curious to know what some of these discussions of serious matters are about.....

I also note that there is a whole paragraph about the Cabinet's involvement in the armies and I would caution them to not overextend their bounds. The rules clearly state the role of the Cabinet and the role of every other command in the armies. The Cabinet is NOT above the armies.

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Generalfeldmarschall Scott Kronprinz "Vorwärts" Ludwig von Preußen
Kommandeur des Königlich-Preußischen Armee-Korps
Chief of Staff (CoS) of the Allied Coalition
Allied Coalition Webmaster & Club Website Support

I agree with Scott.

The armies must come before cabinet.

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Salute!

My reading of the NWC Club Rules.

Under the General Duties of the Cabinet it states among others: settle rules interpretations, and permit forum for officer grievances.

This would appear to indicate that any matter before the Cabinet relating to those headings will be decided by the Cabinet, even if contrary to the expressed wishes of an individual CiC, or army commander.

Furthermore, I would point attention to the use of the word General before Duties of the Cabinet.

This implies that the following listed duties are not the only ones, but only the basic ones.
Of course, we may ask ourselves, what might these other non-general duties be?

I imagine that they are probably of a most mundane nature, but then, if pondered thoughtfully, one might surmise that they could well include duties that some might find onerous.

Sometimes I feel that there is too much credence given to membership in a particular army, as if there is a grimly determined competition between the Club Armies that transcends the friendly rivalry we each have upon the battle maps.

In a similar vein there is among some a view that the Cabinet is in opposition to the Armies.
Yet, two of the members are Army CiC's, and a third is voted the position by the Club membership at large. And the final two positions are filled by the Cabinet themselves.

So, the Cabinet appears to be an expression of both the individual armies, and the membership as a whole.

Probably because some of them, whether you are aware or not are in direct reaction to events with me and my involvment and other peoples ideas of those events. Though I will bite my tongue and see what the Cabinet produces. I have no qualms with people putting thought into changes, I was cautioning against major changes, afterall it was you who said that if something has worked for 15 years why change it.



Again it was words of caution that overall supervision of the Club is fine, but interferring with the day to day operations of an Army is not. By the way there are only two army commanders on the Cabinet, leaving most of the armies in the Club without direction involvement.

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Generalfeldmarschall Scott Kronprinz "Vorwärts" Ludwig von Preußen
Kommandeur des Königlich-Preußischen Armee-Korps
Chief of Staff (CoS) of the Allied Coalition
Allied Coalition Webmaster & Club Website Support

Yes settle rules interpretations but again caution against the creation of massive amounts of new rules....simple rules makes a simple Club. The Cabinet as a whole, yes represents the Club in certain ways and overall things are fine I have to qualms, but I think people fail to see that each army has its own style of managing itself and each Army knows what is best for its officers.

I am not against the Cabinet or its members. I am against it trying to impose any possible unneeded force upon those running the armies.

I am jumping the gun I bit, but that is only because I might have an idea of what is being discussed.....to a degree. Either way carry on until further notice....

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Generalfeldmarschall Scott Kronprinz "Vorwärts" Ludwig von Preußen
Kommandeur des Königlich-Preußischen Armee-Korps
Chief of Staff (CoS) of the Allied Coalition
Allied Coalition Webmaster & Club Website Support

Yes, Andy is a fine man. I trust him as well. Again we'll see what is produced and then go from there.

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Generalfeldmarschall Scott Kronprinz "Vorwärts" Ludwig von Preußen
Kommandeur des Königlich-Preußischen Armee-Korps
Chief of Staff (CoS) of the Allied Coalition
Allied Coalition Webmaster & Club Website Support

Salute!

By the way there are only two army commanders on the Cabinet, leaving most of the armies in the Club without direct involvement.

Is not the Coalition Commander in Chief the officer appointed by those very armies to represent them in the Cabinet?

I might suggest that the position be rotated perhaps more frequently among the Coalition armies, as well as you might propose to the Cabinet that the other individual armies be given non-voting seats within the Cabinet, which I presume would allow them to participate in discussions.

Really, any single member who has an issue he desires to raise with the Cabinet can certainly put forth a proposal for consideration.

As an example, I would not find it unreasonable to consider that the Cabinet positions assigned to the LGA and the Coalition not necessarily having to be filled by the respective CiC's.
Why not allow the Cabinet seats to be filled by an officer chosen by the CiC?
And this position would then be rotated on a yearly basis, for example.

And now that there will be minutes made available, all will be more informed than we have been in the recent past.

Regards,

There are two Army Commanders in Chief on the Cabinet, not two Army Commanders, and you were directly responsible for the placement of the Coalition C-in-C in his role. You very well know that he represents all of the Coalition Armies of this club by the decision of the Cabinet on which both John and you were seated at the time that decision was made. As the membership had absolutely no input in the matter, the responsibility rests squarely with the four Cabinet members who were seated at the time. In my experience, and you very well know this, there are no decisions that have ever been made by the Cabinet since I have been the Club President that favored one army over another. All Cabinet decisions relate to the club as a whole.

The term "wordsmithing" is a direct insinuation of falsehood. Since the Cabinet Minutes were approved by all five of the Cabinet members prior to their publication for the membership, you seem to be decidedly stating that the Cabinet is composed of liars. I assure you, Scott, the Cabinet is composed of much better men than that. I think that was an exceptionally unwise allegation for you to make.

The only person that is "yelling" about copious rules is you, Scott. The Cabinet has never stated any intention whatsoever that it was going to expand the Club Rules to rival the Encyclopedia Britannica. All of this hype has come from you personally. The Cabinet Minutes that were just published clearly state the Cabinet's intention to keep the rules simple. The purpose of updating the rules is primarily for clarification of responsibilities. That was also very clearly stated in the minutes.

Again the makeup of the Cabinet is not of concern to me, the issue is it "potentially" imposing its will upon those running the armies.

From the minutes what bothered me most was this passage:



This I feel is a direct imposition upon the the running of an army and if people could see the email exchange I had and the implications of such it would make more sense why I am mad about this.

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Generalfeldmarschall Scott Kronprinz "Vorwärts" Ludwig von Preußen
Kommandeur des Königlich-Preußischen Armee-Korps
Chief of Staff (CoS) of the Allied Coalition
Allied Coalition Webmaster & Club Website Support

I agree that Andy is a fine man. So are Marco, Al, and John. I will leave it to my peers decide the matter of my character.

I think you are taking it too personally Mark, as I see you've opened up a discussion in the Cabinet, not doubt about this one. You also don't know what I mean by "word-smithing" I wasn't insinuating anything other than I'd be curious to know what some of the direct topics were.

This is the same treatment I received when I made my suggestions about Club structure, I was attacked right out of the gate and certain people have been after me since then. It is subtle, but I notice it.

Either way I am sure the Cabinet has some good things going on.

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Generalfeldmarschall Scott Kronprinz "Vorwärts" Ludwig von Preußen
Kommandeur des Königlich-Preußischen Armee-Korps
Chief of Staff (CoS) of the Allied Coalition
Allied Coalition Webmaster & Club Website Support

I think you meant that you were disagreed with and not attacked, we only attack when we are playing games. And I believe it is everyone's right to disagree and have different opinions! And like you stated earlier I have defended the original structure of the club founders. And we change anything we do not need to throw it all out based on one incident.

So please do not bite your tongue to hard.

Battle On....