MCJones1810 wrote:
To answer your first question, David, I most certainly do not want to retrace the previous path. Not even remotely.
Your editing of the initial post which you placed in this thread made this thread difficult to follow. Impossible really, since the very first post that started the conversation was gone, along with even the original title of the post. The wording of your first edit did not "cry censorship", but it certainly implied it, and an implication is a form of attack, albeit more subtle.
You can certainly read whatever you want there. But there was no attack... Just you reading what you wanted from it... just remember that my post was in response to that:
MCJones1810 wrote:
Gentlemen, this is a Nomination Thread only. As I clearly explained in my email to every member of our club, the Campaign Speeches do not begin until after all candidtates have been nominated and agreed to stand for election. To do otherwise is to take unfair advantage of the members who may yet be nominated. Please refrain from Campaign Speeches until
after the Nomination Period is closed.
If you recall before that I asked questions as we were invited to in your initial post and I nominated someone. I didn't participate to the "campaigning". I just made that comment:
MCJones1810 wrote:
davidguegan wrote:
You should be glad that people get excited about this position
and that we will exercise our new found right to vote.
Who said that I wasn't, and why would you make such a public implication against me?
source:
viewtopic.php?p=78518#p78518MCJones1810 wrote:
I am very glad to hear that you are going to redirect your focus to more productive endeavors for your army, but would encourage you to raise your sights to the bigger picture of our club. That is my hope for every member, because our club will only ever be what we make it to be, good or bad.
I tried to raise my sights to the bigger picture of the club as you say but was told that what happen in the Coalition army was for coalition officers or that I was a soar loser. There wasn't much space for an exchange of ideas either.
MCJones1810 wrote:
Here is the lesson that I want every, single member of our club to learn today. Are you fellows listening? Do I have your attention?
Everything you post in our forums is saved to a hard drive. You cannot make a direct attack on anyone, go back a couple of days later and delete your words, and then six months later deny that you ever made the attack in the first place. What you say is recorded and stored. If you say it, you better mean it. If you mean it, there is no purpose in ever deleting it. If you said it and try to claim otherwise at a later date, it is almost certainly going to come back and bite you in the butt.
The same is true for every email that ever crosses my computer screen. They get saved for the records and future reference.
Now, I am not picking on David here. Not at all. I have no idea how what was originally said in this particular thread will play out into the future. Hopefully there will not be any long term ramifications. What I do know is that the record will always exist.
Mean what you say, and stand by it, but say what you must in a polite and respectful manner. Let us always strive to be mature adults in our conduct. We can do much better than what we have recently witnessed. It is my fervent hope that we shall. Let's work together to make this club better than it ever has been.
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Now, I am not picking on David here." no you are not, you are just making that statement because it came to your mind without particular reason.
For the record, I don't back up because I though I was wrong. I stopped participating to that useless conversation because I understood that whatever I say will make no difference with you. After hitting a wall of bricks for some time I just got fed up of waisting energy for something that is not worth it.
I haven't stopped being a corps commander during this period. I do my job and I hope that one day I will receive an email from the system telling me when one officer from my corps is eligible for a higher rank or a medal.
I also don't need a sermon.
And as for being adult and mature, remember the email I sent to the cabinet a few weeks ago entitled "No confidence in the Cabinet" on the 12 of February 2014 where I said that it was sad to see the 5 men of the cabinet unable to reach an agreement. You never responded to it not that I was expecting you would but I was hoping at least that 5 grown men would be able to solve their problems behind closed doors.
I am not afraid to speak my mind when I have to. I said what I had to say, now if you want to use any of my posts against me please go ahead. That will be fine with me, it will be fine and maybe a little bit ridiculous. And then thinking about it, I would suggest that you put back the messages I edited so everybody will see how menacing I was.
As for saving all the conversations of the forum, what can I say? It sounds weird. Please let me know when we will have to consult a lawyer before posting something here. Are we still a club of wargamers? But I guess 99.5% of the members of the club will find this ok.
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