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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:01 am 
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Are you a Col or a Lt?ImageThe French team :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :P :P


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When my friend and main nemesis had a heart attack and left the NWC it was a hurting feeling when I saw the post my eyes lite up. He was a friend to me that wrote me often and one reason am in the Prussian Armee I was hurt when I found out that this is a two year post. :evil: :evil:


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:39 am 
Hey Cliff,

I just spoke to Bill yesterday as a matter of fact. He is fine and living in California at the moment, if you can believe that, looking for a job, and trying to recover from some recent back problems. He is in good spirits and still riding his bike daily.


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The French have a strange since of humor most be because continual wars.


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Enjoy the war, peace will be awful!

David Billieres wrote:
-the troops in squares which create impenetrable fronts and which resist everything

Think about an option that lets Cav bypass squares, take additional damage but end up in the hex behind the square.
Maybe simply removing ZOCs of squares could achieve that, if cav than moves thruh that square hex and defensive fire comes in they surely take damage every time moving in the firing range of that square.

David Billieres wrote:
- limit piles, to avoid these fronts where divisions of 8000 men confine themselves on 4hexes and maybe heights of the other ideas!

Well that could simply be doe by changing the stacking values in the pdt file.

David Billieres wrote:
- mêlées like crazy and which create grotesque situations

Bill mentioned on another forum that the melee in Napoleon also counts counts as close quarter fire. So melee isn't only a bayonet attack, that is also why there is a 20% bonus if you not fire before doing melee.


Anyhow the series is complete except for 1807 I think but I guess that could be cover by the Jena-Auerstädt game with some additional scenarios, so moving to an improves engine would be great but if the cycle would simply start over again I wonder how many people would by the new ones if they already of the old ones.
On another forum there was just a discussion about AGEods Civil War II and there it summed up to "a must buy for new players, but not worth for players that already have the first Civil War".

Does anyone know if there are development tools that the scenario designers used?
I wonder if there is a map editor, OOB editor, etc. and not only a scenario editor, if so with the close of the series they could finally be released all that stuff.

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There is certainly an OOB editor. No map editor will be released until the series is completed.


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Dominik (the guy behind the DoR system) created a few years ago an oob editor.

You can find it here:

http://nwc.derwinski.pl/tools/oobeditorn.html

and it's better to what I have been using for many years before (.txt editor)

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Andy Moss wrote:
No map editor will be released until the series is completed.


I have doubts about it, it seems that it will never be finished... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

And Christian,

I think there are many battles and campaigns that haven't been done yet. Spain... and some very interesting campaigns during the Revolution (yes the French one...)

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I too doubt we'll ever see it


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davidguegan wrote:
Andy Moss wrote:
No map editor will be released until the series is completed.


I have doubts about it, it seems that it will never be finished... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

And Christian,

I think there are many battles and campaigns that haven't been done yet. Spain... and some very interesting campaigns during the Revolution (yes the French one...)


Yea but were those ever on the to-do list?
For me the series is complete as it simply covers all campaigns(1805-1815) from Napoleon with him as Emperor, "Napoleonic Battles" is exactly the title of the series according to JTS webpage and the name "Napoleonic Wars" is usually taken for the era of 1803–1815.
OK Spain might be something but the high level of Guerrilla warfare there makes me doubt that we ever see a title for that.
And OK you can nitpick and can say we should start with Toulon 1793 what is Napoleons first great victory but the evolution of the French army from almost a horde of "barbarians" to the army that trained 2 years to cross the channel but turned around and won Austerlitz might be too big as to be covered within the current engine.

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Oh and thanks for the link to the new editor, some time ago I stumbled over the old one but as it was more than 10 years old I didn't use it as I thought it might be of no use anymore with all the changes that the series had since that time.
Seems strange that there is no direct way to find it over our webpage, at least I couldn't see any link to it.
Anyhow is there at least some kind of guide for editing a map for this series?

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Auto square and cav counter charge please.

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Christian Hecht wrote:
Oh and thanks for the link to the new editor, some time ago I stumbled over the old one but as it was more than 10 years old I didn't use it as I thought it might be of no use anymore with all the changes that the series had since that time.
Seems strange that there is no direct way to find it over our webpage, at least I couldn't see any link to it.
Anyhow is there at least some kind of guide for editing a map for this series?


My understanding is that the map is locked to a specific game, for example if you take the map of waterloo and try to use it in Austerlitz it won't work.

If you want to create your own map, it surely will be a difficult task. The series has been out for some times now, and since the days of cobexlaw (http://www.cobexlaw.com/campaign/eckmuhl.htm) I haven't seen anybody create a map.

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David is correct. The maps are locked. You would have to create new maps and that's not possible.....the old BG games : maps could be created by a technical process I never understood. JM Barbier and Stephane Chicouri were both expert at that but they have both long departed sadly. Even if you found a way of creating maps and creating new games for the Tiller engine it would be illegal.

You could write to Rich Hamilton and ask to be added to the playtest team which seems to have gone the way of the dodo for the one game. Or you could offer your services direct to John Tiller - he may be quite positive given all the other designers seem to have given up. Worth a thought. Remember though, game creation is one thing; you also need good historical accuracy which Bill P excelled at, then a game needs balancing for playability.

The series has a way to go. Egypt and Italy you could argue are too early. They are still Napoleon's Campaigns though. 1807 is not too early. And yes, Spain - there were a number of famous battles there and a title much requested by the membership.

Engine changes won't happen. I'd wanted some form of gun capture like in Renaissance. I hate just seeing hundred of guns simply eliminated. In reality attempts were made to recover the things. Bill Peters did try for that one but it got dropped sadly.


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