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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:02 am 
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Congratulations Tony,

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:55 am 
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Congratulations Tony.

I've got your flanks Scott, I believe myself and Mark have already crossed swords on this matter.

Did you know that the Hanoverian officers carry nappies in case they soil their breeches when they sight a French column coming in their direction.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:53 pm 
Scott Ludwig wrote:
As the overall Hanoverian representative, just liked I represented all of Prussia, regardless of OOB inclusion, you have a fairly sad lot...also the game OOB's most are C units....but that's beyond the point.

The major point being is I almost fought your beloved Lord Moss to a Draw and for a fair portion of our game carried the lead. Of course, as usual I lost it in the final turns....but um, me thinks it is only a matter of time... ;) Plus no one is all that shocked when I lose, I don't even think John or Al look up from their papers when I report in anymore... ;) :P But when I get a victory, oh well that is cause for jubilation and celebration! :D But even better when your mentor and beloved hero barely escapes, well all should take notice.... :P Even more so when a man such as yourself scars up in a defeat, well, well.....now that is something for the ages is it not....just like my victories! :P


I command the 1st Hanoverian Brigade whose units are as follows:

Feld Jager Corps - Elite (Morale B)
Duke of York's 1st Field Battalion - Elite (Morale B)
Field Battalion Bremen - Veteran (Morale C)
Field Battalion Verdun - Veteran (Morale C)
Luneberg Light Battalion - Elite (Morale B)
Grubenhagen Light Battalion - Elite (Morale B)
Duke of Cumberland Hussars - Conscript (Morale E)
Rettberg Foot Battery - Elite (Morale B)

Most are certainly not Veteran (Morale C) units as you misrepresented. They are in fact, mostly Elite (Morale B) units.

None of which matters, because it is a fictitious command that passed away roughly 200 years ago. I have stated before that the historical quality of the unit to which you assigned means absolutely nothing. It makes you neither a better nor worse player. It is the man who is important, not the history of the unit that he commands. Andy Moss was formerly the Commander of the Russian Opelchenie. I have no doubt that he was formidable beyond all reckoning with a pike.

As far as your gaming expertise being anywhere remotely close to Andy Moss, I will believe such tales only when I hear them from him. My understanding is that your game with him was a pretty one sided affair, and that instead of a 'narrow escape', he was only short 23 VPs from handing you a Major Defeat. And any victory you do get is only relative to the caliber of player you faced, and the relative balance of the scenario you played, just like everybody else.

The key is really not how good you are as a player, although there are some bragging rights associated with superlative play. The key is having fun when you play, and making friends in the process.

My question to Lt. Hornsby would be how many Hanoverians has he actually faced in his NWC career, and what was the outcome of the engagement?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:18 pm 
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I command the 1st Hanoverian Brigade whose units are as follows:

Feld Jager Corps - Elite (Morale B)
Duke of York's 1st Field Battalion - Elite (Morale B)
Field Battalion Bremen - Veteran (Morale C)
Field Battalion Verdun - Veteran (Morale C)
Luneberg Light Battalion - Elite (Morale B)
Grubenhagen Light Battalion - Elite (Morale B)
Duke of Cumberland Hussars - Conscript (Morale E)
Rettberg Foot Battery - Elite (Morale B)

Most are certainly not Veteran (Morale C) units as you misrepresented. They are in fact, mostly Elite (Morale B) units.

None of which matters, because it is a fictitious command that passed away roughly 200 years ago. I have stated before that the historical quality of the unit to which you assigned means absolutely nothing. It makes you neither a better nor worse player. It is the man who is important, not the history of the unit that he commands. Andy Moss was formerly the Commander of the Russian Opelchenie. I have no doubt that he was formidable beyond all reckoning with a pike.

As far as your gaming expertise being anywhere remotely close to Andy Moss, I will believe such tales only when I hear them from him. My understanding is that your game with him was a pretty one sided affair, and that instead of a 'narrow escape', he was only short 23 VPs from handing you a Major Defeat. And any victory you do get is only relative to the caliber of player you faced, and the relative balance of the scenario you played, just like everybody else.

The key is really not how good you are as a player, although there are some bragging rights associated with superlative play. The key is having fun when you play, and making friends in the process.


Touchy, touchy these Hanoverians.... :P No need for the soap box I was only being humorous... ;) I actually like the history of Hanover believe it or not. The KGL I think is some of the most underwritten about forces of the War. Obviously people know that the actual performance of the unit doesn't impact your play, but the unit becomes, if one chooses, a part of his identity in the Club. You will always be a Hanoverian in this Club, I will always be a Prussian. You know how many times I was poked fun of for my Landwehr units in the Prussian Armee?? It comes with the territory.\

I apologize if you misread my humor, I was implying that you & Andy are very good players and are very hard to defeat, unlike me, which is why it is something to take note of. But I never said my expertise was anywhere close to Andy. I'll be the first to boast about my terrible record, which I have often referenced and did in my last post. Andy took one of my battalions in the final turn of the game. I had him held at 197, 3 points away from a draw in his final turn.

But you know why I liked the game....no it was not because I "thought" I'd win or I was as good as Andy, God no, I knew I'd lose. :D I always lose in the last number of turns of my games...story of my career....the fact is Andy is is a lot of fun. I've known him for the almost 10 years I have played games. He is a funny guy and our email conversations are always a lot of fun. He's a top notch. ;) He has brought more recruits to the iNWC back in the day and here than most anyone has and he is one of the few, besides myself, who actively use other gaming sites to get folks into this Club. :D

Plus he is willing to play anything and put his sword on the line....not everyone does that. He's just here to play games and have fun, just like I want to, which makes him the ideal gaming partner and friend. I think many of us know that about him. :)

Btw there has been more than one occasion that I've offered the opposite player in a game tips & advice to help them out, especially if they are new. I think many of us do and I am sure you do too as well Mark.... :) Victories are cheap when you railroad someone....I prefer the fun of a friend, a good conversation and a major defeat any day. :)


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:24 pm 
Mark Hornsby wrote:
Congratulations Tony.

I've got your flanks Scott, I believe myself and Mark have already crossed swords on this matter.

Did you know that the Hanoverian officers carry nappies in case they soil their breeches when they sight a French column coming in their direction.


Thanks Mark.... :) When I was on the Allied side, I actually wanted to look you up for a game.....just like I wanted to get to know Tony & Richard Bradshaw a bit more too. New officers who were active on the forums and having fun. I am very glad to be able to be playing Tony & Richard, they are a delight. No doubt both will beat me and both are having me make good decisions about my game play. Tony's game is exceptionally tricky with the river crossing involved.

If you fancy a maneuver sometime, drop by my door. :)


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:25 pm 
Tony Barrett wrote:
Scott <Salute>

Just to remind you this Hanoverian is commanding the Russian Army.

The Russians live to die for their motherland.

Hope your troops can swim :twisted:

Salute>


Tony....yes your Golden Morale is quite handy!! :)


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:23 pm 
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What excellent words Scott and my sentiments exactly, The few games I have played even though all of them except one are all or going to be defeats but it's not the winning that counts, yes it is good to win and have that massive smile on your face and the bragging rights but I get an even bigger smile when a game comes to an end and I have had such a great game even though I lost and the bonus to all that is I have made a good friend as well. Myself and Richard are always poking fun and having a laugh at each other but neither of us takes offence and he and Fernando both of them of the Spanish Brigade are both excellent opponents who are enjoyable to play against.

I agree also that a lot of Hanoverian units the KGL in particular were held in great esteem in Spain by both Allied and French soldiers and had a fantastic reputation for bravery and gentlemanly behaviour.

I also do not intend to offend either as it is only meant in jest and I like you Scott have not won a game as yet and I am surprised no one has taken up this point and turn the tables and make a joke of it, well that is except Richard, lol.

I hope one day we can do a manouver as I'm sure it will be a great game Scott and maybe in the next few weeks we could get something going, What games do you have.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:50 pm 
That's the point of it all.... :)

That's why I'm still here, I enjoy the games and the laughs. :D

The KGL were fantastic in Spain, they really earned their stripes there.

Email me anytime you want: eric2900@aol.com

I own all games except for Austerlitz..... :)


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:17 pm 
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Sirs, <Salute>

You mean I am not the only one who gets promoted on the back major defeats :)

I know I should study opponents track record, I should also study the minutiae of cannons effectiveness over different distances etc. Just that that detracts from the "game". I am learning the effectiveness of cannon etc., by realizing what does not work.

Although perhaps I should make more of an effort to get leaders within command radius.

Now I know Scott also loses I feel, slightly, more hopeful of avoiding a major defeat in our battle. ;-)

I do realize that a major flaw in my strategy is to force the French back into the river. Alas the fear of water may override their fear of the glorious Russian hordes. ;-)

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:38 pm 
Just make sure there is no soap near the river, Tony. If those Frenchies get the idea that you are herding them into a bath, they will make a fanatical stand to avoid it. The Continental System being what it is makes their feminine perfume much harder to procure, and the thought of having it washed off will greatly distress them. :o :shock: :wink:

And despite Scott fine words to the contrary, Hanoverians are utterly harmless.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:41 pm 
Tony Barrett wrote:
Sirs, <Salute>

You mean I am not the only one who gets promoted on the back major defeats :)

I know I should study opponents track record, I should also study the minutiae of cannons effectiveness over different distances etc. Just that that detracts from the "game". I am learning the effectiveness of cannon etc., by realizing what does not work.

Although perhaps I should make more of an effort to get leaders within command radius.

Now I know Scott also loses I feel, slightly, more hopeful of avoiding a major defeat in our battle. ;-)

I do realize that a major flaw in my strategy is to force the French back into the river. Alas the fear of water may override their fear of the glorious Russian hordes. ;-)


I rode my way to the top of the Prussian Armee on major defeats! :P I will no doubt become the most losing Marechal in the French Army one day! :P

It took me a while to learn cannons too. I am better in Napoleonics with them than I am in ACW. You got those lovely 12 gunned Russian batteries....get them close, but not too close and preferably not in the front lines. My cavalry, which I have a lot of hiding behind my lines in our game is very lethal as I am sure you've seen, but I am lacking infantry at the moment in my cause. You did some good routs on my men this turn. I am still working on the turn to try to find some solutions. Your Guard cav charge was great too! But protect your batteries....I might have some good charges against you this turn if I figure it out. But my cavalry is expensive... :)

Yes, as I mentioned in email, keep your chain of command together. Check the command radius often, but keep your Corps CO's a bit further back. No need to have them too close to the front. The Russians have some good CC's and DC's...keep 'em alive. :)

But yes my Frenchman are not good swimmers, so we'll fight you to the death! :P

See if you can figure out some of my strategy in the north and south....diversion maybe?? ;) Maybe not! :D Hard to tell....

You're doing well, the KGL would be proud! As a former KGL man I am proud of your efforts so far too.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:42 pm 
MCJones1810 wrote:
Just make sure there is no soap near the river, Tony. If those Frenchies get the idea that you are herding them into a bath, they will make a fanatical stand to avoid it. The Continental System being what it is makes their feminine perfume much harder to procure, and the thought of having it washed off will greatly distress them. :o :shock: :wink:

And despite Scott fine words to the contrary, Hanoverians are utterly harmless.
:wink: :P :mrgreen:



Haha, least we know what bathes & perfume is.... :P Seen the Hanoverian women lately... ;)


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:25 pm 
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Hanoverian women? I thought they were just a platoon of Pioneers that liked to slap my butt when I walked by. And I only walked by once!!!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:42 pm 
Hahahaha.... :D


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:58 pm 
Oh, how quickly they forget..... :roll: :roll: :roll:

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